New Everton Manager

[Debunkology]

In a lower league in Sweden.

That's right, he took a club from 4th tier to the 1st. A small club in a foreign country that had never played 2nd tier football in their history.

 

[Drico]

Moyes got our job on the strength of a promotion from league one and beaten play off finalists in the championship. He did alright relatively speaking.

I wonder if anyone can succeed here with 10th placed Carlo Ancelotti forever undermining their efforts.

Moyes got our job when we were broken paupers who couldn't afford to pay or back a manager of proven worth. We took a punt on a bright young thing - and got lucky.

Everton now have the money to attract a better standard of candidate. If we go for, say, Nuno, we are demonstrably evincing all the ambition of Crystal Palace.

 

[jamieni]

Moyes got our job on the strength of a promotion from league one and beaten play off finalists in the championship. He did alright relatively speaking.

I wonder if anyone can succeed here with 10th placed Carlo Ancelotti forever undermining their efforts.

We were in a very different place as a club then. Relegation threatened and with zero cash.

I’m sure there are plenty of managers who can do well with us but I fear the Potter is not that person.

 

[Toffeeslam]

Mate the 94 season was 27 years ago it really isn't that short of a memory to not remember it

Then Graham Potter ?????

WTF gives ??

 

[TheBigIguana]

Then Graham Potter ?????

WTF gives ??

The easiest explanation is you're allowed to look deeper than results.

 

[The_La]

Let's pretend that's true - and it's not. How do we account for newly relegated Swansea in the 2018-2019 season?

He finished 10th, they finished 6th and 4th the following two seasons after he'd left. I can see the mental gymnastics down the runway already - he'd "set them up to succeed".

Who know what would have happened at Swansea if he'd been there longer. Fact is, Brighton saw something in him and wanted him - so he must have done something right to get a higher profile job at a club further up the pyramid.

I should say - I shouldn't have said that all of those clubs had more resources than Brighton. Sheff Utd dont't - although they're historically a bigger club i'd say.

 

[raib]

Hang on, Potter's league finishes are:

Osterund : 8th, 5th in a tinpot league
Swansea: 10th in the Championship
Brighton: 15th, 16th


And people genuinely think there is an argument for appointing him. Holy wow.

People are just getting carried away with his playing style

People are

Hang on, Potter's league finishes are:

Osterund : 8th, 5th in a tinpot league
Swansea: 10th in the Championship
Brighton: 15th, 16th


And people genuinely think there is an argument for appointing him. Holy wow.

People are just getting carried away with his playing style. Having him is a big risk.

 

[orly]

That's right, he took a club from 4th tier to the 1st. A small club in a foreign country that had never played 2nd tier football in their history.

Can you genuinely not see the gaping flaw in this argument? It's Swedish domestic football, all their leagues are of a miserable weak standard. We aren't after a promotion specialist.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

They were playing in front of less than a 1000 people in the 4th division of swedish football to 8th and 5th in the top division and beating galatasary and arsenal in the europa league within a few years.
Thats not to shabby for his first job.

The Park End arl arses will eat him for breakfast mate.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Potter is a joke
Nuno is nothing without Mendes
Galtier is unproven on a few levels

I just don’t know where we turn from here

 

[Handball]

Selectively ignoring his two league titles, cup win and manager of the year awards

That's the sort of argument that lands you with Hodgson.

 

[Toffeeslam]

The easiest explanation is you're allowed to look deeper than results.

what does that mean ?

It’s a results business and if you can get them playing good football great but who wants to play pretty football and get pumped every week ?

 

[The_La]

That he is a manager with a hopeless track record in the English game and a style of football that sets him up to fail?

Seems a pretty sound argument to me.

"Fail". Again - this is incongruous mate. Keeping Brighton safe while playing nice football isn't failure. Their first priority at the moment is staying in the league, and their second is to play really good football. Hence why they jibbed Hughton.

The hope is that over time he'll get better and better and take them higher - but doing what he's done there so far absolutely is not failure.

 

[Gilbert..]

Some will happily take finishing 15th every season just so they can watch us win the occasional game 3-2 playing hipster futbol.

Baffling.

We're discussing the possibility of good football coming to Everton here. You want sean dyche. You may want to go do the hoovering or something.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Who know what would have happened at Swansea if he'd been there longer. Fact is, Brighton saw something in him and wanted him - so he must have done something right to get a higher profile job at a club further up the pyramid.

I should say - I shouldn't have said that all of those clubs had more resources than Brighton. Sheff Utd dont't - although they're historically a bigger club i'd say.

Swansea also sold about half the squad from the PL season and had to rebuild.