New Everton Manager

[tsubaki]

Blundellsands or Cote d"azor?

now if Montpellier wanted him we’d have no chance, that city is amazing

 

[matty1878]

How would Terim do in a season on FM, who would he sign?

Yep Matty

ha ha god oh wait (he god) hasn’t been linked yet, (awaits flurry’s at the bookies)

 

[bullybeef]

Welcome to Everton Fatih!

 

[ArtetaMoney]

This is the most Everton manager search, ever.

Fully expecting it to drag on for a few more weeks, then us announce Howe or Nuno.

In the mean time, we’ll sign no players and the new manager will be left with a few deadline day panic buys.

I hope I’m wrong.

 

[Stephenlloyd]

I’m sure I heard at the time Moshiri didn’t like/want Martinez when he took over and that why they got rid. Yes it was toxic but they could of held off and given him the summer

Held off, he was a disaster. Some of his buys where shocking. I wouldn’t have trusted him with another penny.

He should have gone before the semi final IMO, who knows what may have happened if he did.

 

[Paulie]

Held off, really he was a disaster. Some of his buys where shocking. I wouldn’t have trusted him with another penny.

He should have gone before the semi final IMO, who knows what may have happened if he did.

Before the Derby even. A short Big Dunc stint may have won us the cup but Bill wasn't ruthless enough.

 

[Houghty19]

Not worried about us taking our time as long as we get the right person in place. Look at Tottenham they've needed a manager since months before the end of the season and they still don't have anybody in place. I'm hoping that we are taking time because we are doing the right things in selecting the next manager and not just picking someone because they are available or the present flavour of the month or because some of our supporters are wetting the bed because we still don't have a manager a whole two weeks since our last one unexpectedly left us in the lurch.

 

[barneygumble]

I'll be honest, I would absolutely love it if we appointed Martinez. First of all, the fume levels would be so peak, that it may actually break enough peoples spirits that it acts like a giant reset. Like a good thunder storm followed by a massive down pour when it just gets too hot and muggy.

It would be a huge gamble from the board, that they decide to back a man who was hated so much, unfairly in my opinion, but it would also be them admitting they were wrong and perhaps a little bit hasty, which is a gutsy move.

I always believed Roberto had our best interests at heart, but he was stubborn and didn't learn his lessons. A lot of what he talked about and what he wanted to do was in my opinion the correct approach, but we just didn't have the capacity, neither in the squad nor the funding to do what needed to be done.

His ideas about creating and implementing a strategy of developing youth teams and a genuine sustainable chain from the youngest sides to the 1st team was admirable, but was scrapped almost as soon as it had begun by appointing Koeman. I believe it was Martinez who brought the youngsters together with the 1st team squad at Finch farm, and his ideas for the expansions at finch farm and other technical details I'd read about at the time would only have been good for the club. He embraced the history and reached out to former players and managers to try and create something bigger, but at the time, his ideas where perhaps a bit too ambitious and he ultimately paid the price.

If, and its a big if, he has learned from his mistakes, as all good coaches should, and he had the foresight to appoint a capable defensive coach to work on drills that he perhaps neglected 1st time round, and if he can work harmoniously with Brands in building a squad and developing the culture that runs though the age groups as was his initial plan, then I would have no qualms about it.

He always struck me as an affable, likeable man who's biggest flaw appeared to be a relentless positivity that got under the skin of a largely negative and cynical fan base that has seen too many heartbreaks and let downs and didn't believe he was genuine. I believe he was. I believe he genuinely believed what he said, but just had a positive outlook and tried to see the best in every situation, something that is increasingly difficult to do in this day and age.

There is no denying that at its best, the times under Martinez were far and away the most enjoyable times we've had at Everton for some time. At its worst, it was excruciating, there's no denying it. But I always thought what we needed were tweaks rather than a full 180 that Koeman arrogantly and lazily tried to implement, and we've felt the consequences ever since.

With the correct backing, and the right players, and like I say, a little wisdom gained through experience, and a bit of patience at our end, I genuinely believe we could achieve something long lasting here.

Unfortunately, unless the aforementioned storm happened, I don't think we have the collective patience to let it.

If there's any reason for why we shouldn't return.

Mo Besic, Matthew Pennington, Luke Garbutt (who's 28?!) departed - 3 years+ since their last appearance for Everton - due to hefty contracts; the latter claiming £9m off us, over the 5-years Martinez gave him.
Galloway, Leandro Rodriguez the list goes on. Blinded faith in average players was his downfall.


Big fat no for me.

 

[Stephenlloyd]

Before the Derby even. A short Big Dunc stint may have won us the cup but Bill wasn't ruthless enough.

If it wasn’t for Moshiri he would have kept his job. Bill couldn’t afford to sack him.
Remember the what a manager shout on TV after the Chelsea win

 

[steele]

Last 10 years Everton has seen managers departed to "big" clubs or national teams:

Moyes - Manch U
Martinez - Belgium
Koeman - Netherlands and then Barcelona
Ancelotti - Real Madrid

Only Silva is the odd one here (where is he?).
Martinez and Koeman got sacked, but you can't blame the board for hiring those four, seeing where they went after Everton?

 

[davids]

Not worried about us taking our time as long as we get the right person in place. Look at Tottenham they've needed a manager since months before the end of the season and they still don't have anybody in place. I'm hoping that we are taking time because we are doing the right things in selecting the next manager and not just picking someone because they are available or the present flavour of the month or because some of our supporters are wetting the bed because we still don't have a manager a whole two weeks since our last one unexpectedly left us in the lurch.

Doing the right thing,now there's an idea.

 

[allen]

Last 10 years Everton has seen managers departed to "big" clubs or national teams:

Moyes - Manch U
Martinez - Belgium
Koeman - Netherlands and then Barcelona
Ancelotti - Real Madrid

Only Silva is the odd one here (where is he?).
Martinez and Koeman got sacked, but you can't blame the board for hiring those four, seeing where they went after Everton?

I also think that pedigree makes us particularly attractive to ambitious managers. I mean, even if you don't do great at Everton, look what you could win.

 

[barneygumble]

Last 10 years Everton has seen managers departed to "big" clubs or national teams:

Moyes - Manch U
Martinez - Belgium
Koeman - Netherlands and then Barcelona
Ancelotti - Real Madrid

Only Silva is the odd one here (where is he?).
Martinez and Koeman got sacked, but you can't blame the board for hiring those four, seeing where they went after Everton?

He's the brains behind the Super League I reckon... or PSG are missing a massive trick there.

 

[tsubaki]

If there's any reason for why we shouldn't return.

Mo Besic, Matthew Pennington, Luke Garbutt (who's 28?!) departed - 3 years+ since their last appearance for Everton - due to hefty contracts; the latter claiming £9m off us, over the 5-years Martinez gave him.
Galloway, Leandro Rodriguez the list goes on. Blinded faith in average players was his downfall.


Big fat no for me.

Galloway was not a bad player - in fact if you want to date when Martinez lost the plot to one decision, then dropping him for Baines the moment Baines was half fit would be a good one (Palace at home in his first season would also be a candidate). It destroyed his confidence and I think did a lot to ruin the squads too.

 

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