New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group

[windymiller]

Dean Saunders and McCoist to replace DCL and Beto

Don't be silly, he wants Birtles and Robertson.

 

[billyblue80]

The post I replied to says he's asking for old players in January.

He is

 

[davek]

Not sure you have been watching our games lately David.
When will we score next , in fact when will we have a shot on target ?
We can't win a game , lose a goal and the game is over.

More importantly he has lost the crowd , he's lost the players , just a matter of time he loses the owners.

We know how this ends , as Goat says he'll sack himself.

Creative players like Garner and McNeil being out have put paid to that.

We've struggled to score goals for a few seasons now; so the manager is right to point that out too.

Solveable...even more so if we get options like pace into the squad this month.

 

[milks]

He is

Who like?

 

[Thomasc]

Creative players like Garner and McNeil being out have put paid to that.

We've struggled to score goals for a few seasons now; so the manager is right to point that out too.

Solveable...even more so if we get options like pace into the squad this month.

stop pretending Garner is creative. It’s absolutely not true what a load of old bollocks.

 

[davek]

galvanised we are 1 point above relegation, half way through the season, with the worst offensive stats in the league and a fan base that is now just apathetic to it all.

And if we fall into the championship this season, Whose fault will you be saying that is?

Without Dyche galvanising this club especially last season you'd now be bemoaning the fact we just got beat by Sunderland or some cockamamy outfit like that in the lower divisions.

 

[MikeH72]

Creative players like Garner and McNeil being out have put paid to that.

We've struggled to score goals for a few seasons now; so the manager is right to point that out too.

Solveable...even more so if we get options like pace into the squad this month.

We couldn’t score from open play when McNeil was in the team either.

 

[blueboy72]

stop pretending Garner is creative. It’s absolutely not true what a load of old bollocks.

Pretty sure McNeil and garner played the majority of the games,
When we didn’t win last season for 4 months
Now world beaters apparently

 

[davek]

We couldn’t score from open play when McNeil was in the team either.

Yes we could. Stop making it up as you go along. He was in the game against Wolves.

 

[Azza]

We also have injuries to Garner and McNeil.

They are the creative spark we need.

If we had either in MF today we'd have set Forest a lot more problems than we did.

Of course they are.

You're in a very dark place indeed if you're denying Graner and McNeil cant pick a telling forward pass out.

There's no point. I suspect the reason the new owners will stick with Dyche is that a/ he'd need paying off prior to June; b/ they have no cash to make a difference for another manager and there'll be likely more outgoings in January.

We have a manager who's got the players competitive for most of our games and earning points in them, and he has McNeil, Garner and Iroegbunam to come back in soon enough.

As soon as we were shorn of both McNeil and Garner there's a broken chain of play and we cant transition.

That's been at the heart of the poor form of late.

It's all very explainable and fixable...but people want the manager gone and no doubt eventually TFG will hand them his head.

We need to retain Dyche and he'll sort this.

No. I dont admit to that.

Hel's literally been the difference between us staying up and being relegated. His ability to keep calm and go through and out the other end of poor periods of the last two seasons have been exemplary.

I wont join in a stampede - we've just played 5 of the top 8 in the last 5 games and lost only to the worst two of them.

The lack of chances are explained by the absence of forward thinking players like McNeil and Garner.

The smart thing to do is to give him some cash to spend to get some pace into this team by buying at least 1 FB and a winger and get him a decent play maker/forward.

That'd have to be done in any case if we got another manager in.

If this lot panic now because certain fans are demanding Dyche's head it'll be catastrophic for this club.

Palace have a much better squad than Everton. Wolves are probably same level and we're better off than Ipswich.

That's the reality.

Our creative payers like McNeil and Garner have been huge absences in recent weeks/months.

There's a reason for our lack of creativity.

But we also need help from the owners who should be doing deals for players.

We'll be fine under Dyche safety wise. Anyone else would IMO be a big gamble.

There's reasons for that. We have our creative players Garner and McNeil out.

Do you see an alternative manager to Dyche getting wins with no brain out on the pitch to pull levers?

I dont.

I agree. Defo a change of gear.

Whether that's the shot across the bow for Dyche or the fans and media being steadied for a definite replacement or not is the only doubt.

I tend to think Dyche will get the Villa game and if we do well there he'll be ok and get to take some very winnable games on following that.

His fortune rests on getting McNeil and Garner back on the pitch. It should also rest on who these owners get through the door in terms of players, but that looks remote right now.

Creative players like Garner and McNeil being out have put paid to that.

We've struggled to score goals for a few seasons now; so the manager is right to point that out too.

Solveable...even more so if we get options like pace into the squad this month.

You've had quite a thing about Garner being one of our most creative players for a while now, as the above shows.



Which is odd because it was only a couple of months ago you said you "don't rate Garner that much in MF." And said he is "nowhere near as influential as he should be."

Dixon is a good prospect, but I dont rate Garner that much in MF. Nowhere near as influential as he should be.

Which is actually correct because his attacking stats are incredibly woeful.

 

[MrGrumpy]

I think that’s a solid point about Dyche valuing age because to him age is experience. And to him older experience is always more valuable than younger and less experienced. Older players with PL experience and Dyche doesnt’t need to teach them much. Just go out and defend and do what I say. Bringing in young raw talent and getting the best of them while managing and letting them be free requires a skill set he’s not so good at. Speaks volumes why his recruitment is what it is and who he passes on. And also why he always plays his trusted Burnley lads.

It’s why he never win anything major

 

[matty1878]

You've had quite a thing about Garner being one of our most creative players for a while now, as the above shows.



Which is odd because it was only a couple of months ago you said you "don't rate Garner that much in MF." And said he is "nowhere near as influential as he should be."




Which is actually correct because his attacking stats are incredibly woeful.

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he’s trying every excuse under the sun to keep a failing manager

 

[dockroad]

Garner is anonymous most games and McNeil scores a goal occasionally and the fact that we badly miss them tells us how poor we really are .

 

[matty1878]

Without Dyche galvanising this club especially last season you'd now be bemoaning the fact we just got beat by Sunderland or some cockamamy outfit like that in the lower divisions.

your looking like a bad tool dave

if we keep dyche we will be playing
“some cockamamy outfit” in the champ


SEE YA DYCHEEEEEEEEE

 

[davek]

You've had quite a thing about Garner being one of our most creative players for a while now, as the above shows.



Which is odd because it was only a couple of months ago you said you "don't rate Garner that much in MF." And said he is "nowhere near as influential as he should be."




Which is actually correct because his attacking stats are incredibly woeful.

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He's still a creative force in the context of this Everton team.

My point was that he could be even more potent at RB and get us going from deep.