New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group

[brieverton]

We should look forward with hope and optimism.

There will be a lot of change - new owners, new stadium, new management, new players, and more.

We should not let a terrible recent past spoil that hope, whilst it lasts.

 

[Lob]

We should look forward with hope and optimism.

There will be a lot of change - new owners, new stadium, new management, new players, and more.

We should not let a terrible recent past spoil that hope, whilst it lasts.

Hopefully the full reset that should have happened when Moshiri bought us. These fellas are a completely different kettle of fish, experienced, professional and ruthless. We should be unrecognisable in the not too distant future all being well.

 

[pfim]

This has become the Bill thread again.

It's a bit sad. Obviously nothing changes until they're approved, but once they are the past is irrelevant. There's nothing for us, as supporters, to learn from it. Dwelling on it is a giant waste of time.

 

[allen]

Long as they make use debt free I don't really care. Once the stadium starts to make money and hopefully their business connections allow for better sponsorship deals, we'll be in a much better position for state buy out.

They're effectively allowing us to get out of the first difficult 10-20 years of owing so much, I'm sure however bad they might be as owners, it will be outweighed by this.

While I agree entirely with your rationale, I’ve found myself taking a less sophisticated view on the Friedkins than that, at least for now.

This takeover has effectively saved the club from going bust. As you say, they’ve stemmed the bleeding, and that really has been the priority over the last couple of years.

Anything from here is a bonus.

 

[Damo_1878]

It's a bit sad. Obviously nothing changes until they're approved, but once they are the past is irrelevant. There's nothing for us, as supporters, to learn from it. Dwelling on it is a giant waste of time.

I don't subscribe to the idea that you ignore history, because it doesn't suit

You learn the lessons and make sure bad things never happen again. You can't do that unless you talk about it

The major point is we make sure that this sort of thing (and all these bad things) never happens to Everton Football Club again. Ever.

While I agree entirely with your rationale, I’ve found myself taking a less sophisticated view on the Friedkins than that, at least for now.

This takeover has effectively saved the club from going bust. As you say, they’ve stemmed the bleeding, and that really has been the priority over the last couple of years.

Anything from here is a bonus.

You're totally right there. Moshiri couldn't afford to pay these debts off

I can't believe individuals at the club thought getting the ECHO to publish this was appropriate.

Shows what a parallel universe they live in

 

[pfim]

I don't subscribe to the idea that you ignore history, because it doesn't suit

You learn the lessons and make sure bad things never happen again. You can't do that unless you talk about it

The major point is we make sure that this sort of thing (and all these bad things) never happens to Everton Football Club again. Ever.

There is absolutely nothing you or I can do to make sure it never happens again. The fact that we were an approval from 777 taking over is all the evidence of this needed.

 

[The binman chronicles]

While I agree entirely with your rationale, I’ve found myself taking a less sophisticated view on the Friedkins than that, at least for now.

This takeover has effectively saved the club from going bust. As you say, they’ve stemmed the bleeding, and that really has been the priority over the last couple of years.

Anything from here is a bonus.

It's definitely the immediate concern. Say if Textor was the one who took over and we still had half a billion debt the potential to be back in the same space would still be hanging in the background.

If we can go from here income wise per season: (stats from a couple of seasons ago)

To near 300m then we will have the headroom to make mistakes and rectify them without immediately being plunged into a relegation fight.

 

[Damo_1878]

There is absolutely nothing you or I can do to make sure it never happens again. The fact that we were an approval from 777 taking over is all the evidence of this needed.

There is always something that can be done. Always. 777 Partners case being a perfect example.

 

[Damo_1878]

It's definitely the immediate concern. Say if Textor was the one who took over and we still had half a billion debt the potential to be back in the same space would still be hanging in the background.

If we can go from here income wise per season: (stats from a couple of seasons ago)

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To near 300m then we will have the headroom to make mistakes and rectify them without immediately being plunged into a relegation fight.

Why I was highlighting what I was about Textor

He was never really a viable proposition. It may have annoyed people with me continually raising the issues and reminding people. But clearly it it was the case, just as you illustrate there.

 

[IrishBlue2022]

I don't subscribe to the idea that you ignore history, because it doesn't suit

You learn the lessons and make sure bad things never happen again. You can't do that unless you talk about it

The major point is we make sure that this sort of thing (and all these bad things) never happens to Everton Football Club again. Ever.



You're totally right there. Moshiri couldn't afford to pay these debts off

I can't believe individuals at the club thought getting the ECHO to publish this was appropriate.

Shows what a parallel universe they live in

Thelwell can't be truly judged on some of the players brought in because Kenwright (and Moshiri) were interfering and had the final say on transfers

Maupay is an example. Maupay was all Kenwright and Moshiri. They made the decision, it is known

Everton were looking to sign Kudus at Thelwell's recommendation, but he was overruled by Kenwright and Moshiri and they opted to sign Maupay who was not the DoF's choice

Thelwell has shown he can identify players (with Iroegbunam being an example) that can add to the squad at minimal price

To properly judge Thelwell, you'd need about three years of non-interreference by Kenwright IMHO

Was the barrier with Kudus not Ajax refusing to sell after Antony went to United?

No.

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Again. NO.

I think you'll find it was, regardless of what Prentice had people publish subsequently.

But yet you ignore history when it suits.

We have new incoming owners. An opportunity to feel positive again.

Look forward.

 

[Goat]

There is always something that can be done. Always. 777 Partners case being a perfect example.

They folded.

It was nothing anybody did, we couldn't and didn't stop it.

 

[Damo_1878]

But yet you ignore history when it suits.

We have new incoming owners. An opportunity to feel positive again.

Look forward.

I hadn't even posted in the past two pages. Yet you're on here telling people what to think and what they can post again with your "look forward" rhetoric.

Lectures from you are not needed. Frankly.

They folded.

It was nothing anybody did, we couldn't and didn't stop it.

There was dogged resistance all the way along. That made media take note.

It had an impact.

 

[IrishBlue2022]

They folded.

It was nothing anybody did, we couldn't and didn't stop it.

Exactly. The process weeded them out. Not fans or tweets/podcast influencers.

 

[Damo_1878]

Exactly. The process weeded them out. Not fans or tweets/podcast influencers.

Wrong.

 

[Goat]

Wrong.

No Damo, it was all you, you did it, give yourself a pat on the back.