New Everton Stadium Discussion

[Jacko93]

this is one of the biggest stadiums in the world, no overlap (just appears that way because of the box seats)

The stadium guides and codes are different in America though, and certainly for American sports games.

There are specific guidance notes in the UK as to maximum distances of seat to far corner. That's what drives the wave-like oval shape in many modern stadiums.

 

[SerenityNigh]

The stadium guides and codes are different in America though, and certainly for American sports games.

There are specific guidance notes in the UK as to maximum distances of seat to far corner. That's what drives the wave-like oval shape in many modern stadiums.

same shape, just bigger

 

[Jokerdan]

I thought this was our new stadium thread but seems now that people are reverting to what 'might have been' instead of looking forward to 'what will be'. I appreciate there is an element of hypothesis involved but - and using the old analogy - it's akin to 'having left the gate open and the horse bolting'.

 

[ashwuk76]

The stadium guides and codes are different in America though, and certainly for American sports games.

There are specific guidance notes in the UK as to maximum distances of seat to far corner. That's what drives the wave-like oval shape in many modern stadiums.

Correct, its why West Ham can't sell the seats in the far corners of the stadium, they are out of the circle of allowability. From speaking to the architect of West Ham stadium, and I am going off a memory from about 5 years ago, I think its a premier league rule about distances and not building regs? it was fine as an atheltics stadium, but when they converted it they couldn't do anything. Its why they built those stands over the running track,

 

[Wizard]

I’m sure people are aware of this but I’ve never seen it before. Pretty funny this is how the commentators have to get to the gantry. It doesn’t seem that scary but still a sign of how weird and old Goodison is.

 

[Tom Hughes]

Neither Barcelona, nor Real Madrid chose redevelopment due to how much cheaper it is.

As ever, there were a number of factors..... but I'm glad that you at least acknowledge that both redevelopments were cheaper than the complete new build option. Significantly so, in fact!

 

[Gerryor]

Real Madrid have spent over a billion and Barcelona will spend a similar amount. Madrid have been rebuilding their stadium for the last 3 years and they are still working on it.

 

[PrekisCrossBarlow!]

I’m sure people are aware of this but I’ve never seen it before. Pretty funny this is how the commentators have to get to the gantry. It doesn’t seem that scary but still a sign of how weird and old Goodison is.

People rightly marvel at Goodison's historic vibe and ancient stands, but this is only the case because we have been run by idiots since about 1989.

I hate to say it, but decent owners would have either relocated or found a way of knocking down and rebuilding the Bullens and Gwladys in about 1990 when the Premier League was getting put together. And decent owners would DEFFO have used all that car park space to build a Blue Wall end at the park end in 1994 instead of the League One stand we have there now.

 

[sbbefc]

People rightly marvel at Goodison's historic vibe and ancient stands, but this is only the case because we have been run by idiots since about 1989.

I hate to say it, but decent owners would have either relocated or found a way of knocking down and rebuilding the Bullens and Gwladys in about 1990 when the Premier League was getting put together. And decent owners would DEFFO have used all that car park space to build a Blue Wall end at the park end in 1994 instead of the League One stand we have there now.

Not defending the Park End. But despite being league one standard it still has the best unobstructed views in the ground.

 

[degsy]

If Peel have their way it will residential from BMD all the way to the Liver Building

Of course thats basically the plan - we're only there to shield the big spenders from the sewage works...sorry, anchor the north end of the development

 

[degsy]

People rightly marvel at Goodison's historic vibe and ancient stands, but this is only the case because we have been run by idiots since about 1989.

I hate to say it, but decent owners would have either relocated or found a way of knocking down and rebuilding the Bullens and Gwladys in about 1990 when the Premier League was getting put together. And decent owners would DEFFO have used all that car park space to build a Blue Wall end at the park end in 1994 instead of the League One stand we have there now.

Two words prevented all that when it was all costed - How Much!?!?

 

[Tom Hughes]

this is one of the biggest stadiums in the world, no overlap (just appears that way because of the box seats)

There's quite a large overhang at that far end of the Kyle Stadium, and a lesser one at the end the pic is taken from. However, as others have said, the maximum viewing distances for our football are tighter and usually more stringently regulated. The viewing distances at some of these college stadiums are horrendous.

Rod Sheard states in his guide to stadium design that overlapping tiers are usually incorporated in larger stadia to help stay within the max viewing distance grid. Of course confined sites also require this format to maximise capacity. The result is often greater intimacy.

 

[Tom Hughes]

Real Madrid have spent over a billion and Barcelona will spend a similar amount. Madrid have been rebuilding their stadium for the last 3 years and they are still working on it.

It depends who you ask. Building contracts for the Bernabeu seem to total less than €1bn. Some cost estimates even include total interest over the next 30yrs, which isn't really a relevant comparison. However, the fact is, to build these new stadia from scratch would cost at least double what they are spending.

 

[MickA]

Not defending the Park End. But despite being league one standard it still has the best unobstructed views in the ground.

Nah, the unobstructed balcony views on the other three sides are the best in the league.

 

[arch stanton]

Not defending the Park End. But despite being league one standard it still has the best unobstructed views in the ground.

that is quite a low bar though, almost as low as the roof in lower gwladys