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New Everton Stadium

I haven’t seen any reasoning for the costs increasing but costs escalating is far from unusual in construction, particularly in the early stages. You simply don’t know what you’re working with until you survey the site in great detail. It sounds simple but things such as the soil PH levels can massively affect the design and specification of the foundations, for example.

Just take an aerial view of BM now and you can see why it's going to cost that much. The work to fill in the dock alone will be a huge undertaking before they start the actual construction of the stadium - plus the need for added infrastructure/new rail terminals etc. It would have been cheaper (and faster) to build the stadium at stonebridge but the fans desperately wanted the docks. For that alone we should be applauding Moshiri. I don't get the negativity towards him.
 
This is the point that the needs communicating to the general public, what happens if. Like Joe says it is a fantastic deal for the city, our income would be guaranteed for at least the first 10 years the stadium is in existence for so let's run some hypotheticals should we default after that point.

For workings assume that LCC are acting as guarantor on £300 million. We pay the council 7 million a year for arranging the low interest rate loan. That spread over 40 years gives a yearly payment of around 15 million.

After 10 years we would have paid 70 million into the LCC coffers for next to nothing. We would have paid back over 70 million in capital leaving a sub 230 million debt. We would have also generated considerable amounts of money for the council/government by building and helping develop the the north dock area 25 years in advance of what it would have done otherwise. Business rates and jobs ahoy all down to us.

So the council at this point has a few options it could start using our slush fund to cover the total costs (15 million a year) and run for a few years or it actually only needs 8 or so million to just pay the loan back, so the slush fund could finance more years while we reduce our playing staff as contracts run down to then be able to restart the repayments to cover the debt and the money we pay to the LCC + what we have missed while we were in a bad situation.

However that assumes we can't afford anything towards the payments it is far more likely that we could pay something just not the full amount, if LCC let us off the amount owed to them while we sort out our financial problems then in reality we could be paying 4 million a year towards the loan, the other 4 million could be made by the slush fund and that could stretch 10 years that way with the council not paying a bean towards it and have already gained 70 million off the back of it. At the end of that 10 year period (not that it would ever stretch 10 years mind you, this is just worst case scenario) the debt would be down to around 150 million. This could be refinanced at a reduced cost over a longer term if everyone so wished at that point. (Again don't think that will ever happen)

Bottom line is I don't think we will ever default on 15 million once it has been hard budgeted for but even if that is the case, I find it almost impossible to see a situation that will actually cause LCC to put their hands in their pockets for us.
Just read Woolly's post.(Echo)
Anderson says council lending us the money.
They are borrowing on our behalf like.
Shift in the landscape from his 1st announcement.
 
"The finance deal is still being completed and would have to be approved by the council’s cabinet and then by full council, allowing opponents to have their say."

it aint happening, the backlash is already there, politicians are starting to get involved. no way this 2/3 thing is happening.

"“We obviously have yet to see the details but the figures quoted to date seem to ignore the additional £100m which will need to be spend on the transport and other infrastructure needed before the stadium could be used."

its gonna get far worse when reality starts to hit.

the cit'ys on its arse, noway are the full cabinet sanction a deal into hundreds of millions.
 

They will because it's a kick starter for regeneration for the area. They'll also be making £4-7m a year off Everton.

there will be plenty of opposition to this.

we can only wait and see if it gets the go ahead, but I'm thinking there will be an outcry when it is announced.
 
The outcry will be from those who dont understand how beneficial the deal is to Liverpool as a City.

i understand this, there is still a very considerable risk tho.

the council will not want to be left with a white elephant that has cost them 100's millions.

why is securing the last bit of finance proving troublesome?? there has to be reasons..
 

"The finance deal is still being completed and would have to be approved by the council’s cabinet and then by full council, allowing opponents to have their say."

it aint happening, the backlash is already there, politicians are starting to get involved. no way this 2/3 thing is happening.

"“We obviously have yet to see the details but the figures quoted to date seem to ignore the additional £100m which will need to be spend on the transport and other infrastructure needed before the stadium could be used."

its gonna get far worse when reality starts to hit.

The 100 million for transport and infrastructure is way too high.

A lot of the infrastructure for the roads have already been done or in the process due to Liverpool 2 port just down the road.
 

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