New Everton Stadium

[GwladysBlue]

 

[Gardocki]

Evertonians Cry - We’ve no money to spend we can’t compete.
Moshiri comes in and we regularly splash 25+ million on talents we can attract - still not happy and let’s all be negative

Evertonians Cry - We’ve got a crooked ownership doing dodgy deals putting the club in debt with payback based on future season ticket sales and it’s restricting our ability to compete financially
Moshiri comes in and clears the debt allowing us to become a more attractive investment enabling training ground sponsorship as a starter ahead of end of contract renegotiations for all commercial deals - still not happy and let’s all be negative

Evertonian’s Cry - We have no confidence in Kenwright and Elstone and they need to let go of the club and move on
Moshiri comes in and becomes largest single share owner with options to become the majority shareholder and Elstone is replaced in a Business like and professional way, as will Mr Bill in due time - still not happy and let’s all be negative

Evertonians Cry - Martinez is no good, too defensively naive and pass pass stubborn, and his interviews are unrelateable with his undeserved superlatives of our better unproven players, who are given chances unlike the previous Moyes years filled with strict, bargain hunting, survivalism perpetuating the underdog and glass ceiling capability of the squad to dampen supporter expectations and make us all grateful for seventh heaven.
Moshiri comes in and pays for Koeman, world class name, doesn’t work after 18 months, pays him off, gets a Defensive Dinosaur for 6 months on extortion contract, but league position recovery achieved if inevitable in poor season anyway, but requires third manager payoff in tenure, whilst planning for more innovative, fresh, coach and DoF model, to orchestrate removal of deadwood from previous failed regimes, and to promote and improve our clearly talented youth set up academy graduates - still not happy and let’s all be negative.

Evertonians Cry - we’re not moving to Kirby, Kings Dock was the one, should be right on the dock in our city, senior club and all that, but clearly no money to fund the capital required to convince lenders we can sustain repayments on any such loan required to fund such project.
Moshiri comes in and over 18 months BMD is purchased, funding and planning details are close, Stadium architect hosts workshops providing clear plans that demonstrate the initial thinking to show close to pitch, steep stands with views of the city and the Mersey, with a huge home end dwarfing similar renowned ends in the league, but as things aren’t moving quick as thought, and snippets demonstrating lots of options to still explore to ensure the best option for the club and its supporters is finalised, that all the Internet Warriors who know football and football and stadium financing better than anyone, have the platform to denounce the likelihood of it happening and caveating that if it does go ahead that it won’t be what it should be, whilst forgetting how dire 3/4 years ago we could go an entire preseason knowing we wouldn’t have the money to fund a transfer let alone, give Goodison a lick of paint, nevermind cladding, banners promoting our history wrapped around, new illuminated badge, new Goodison sign on park end and Light pillars to make the Stadium slightly less 2nd division in a UltraHD Global viewing TV world. - Still not happy and let’s all be negative.

Best fans in the world us. Loads go. Loads don’t. But can we get behind anything together - Nope. Whether it’s the capacity we think we should have, we err on the negative or whether it’s lads trying to get atmosphere going and encourage banners and singing sections for standing, arlarses won’t budge.

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum, can’t be used against the club until our own fan mentality believes it too.

Whatever happens, we’ll bottle it, screw it up, won’t go through, won’t get this, won’t get that.

Years of it prior so I understand - but if you can’t see the transition that has taken place and start to believe this club is on the up and get behind it - then we don’t deserve nice things.

Never knew Morrissey was a blue.....

 

[Walken]

haven't seen it, but apparently the red echo gave Corbyn a loaded question to criticize the potential funding of evertons stadium, he refused to be drawn into talking negatively about it, but will be interested to see the wording myself from a 'local' paper

 

[Market trader]

haven't seen it, but apparently the red echo gave Corbyn a loaded question to criticize the potential funding of evertons stadium, he refused to be drawn into talking negatively about it, but will be interested to see the wording myself from a 'local' paper

'When talking about creative ways to find more money, one of Joe Anderson's ideas is to invest quite a lot of money in Everton's new stadium and it is one that is causing a lot of debate in the city. Would you agree with these types of speculative investments?

Speculative investments, as you put it, are not necessarily wrong. Local authorities going into enterprise is not necessarily wrong. Northumberland and Arch is a very good example of municipal investment - where they have invested in housing; in some cases, shopping centres, hotels, factories and jobs and they have become quite a good economic generator.

And certainly I would see a regional investment bank as part of our national investment bank strategy. Investing in local enterprise and new developments is a good thing to do. I'm not opposed to it at all - but obviously you have to take very cautious decisions when doing so.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/exclusive-interview-jeremy-corbyn-talks-14767246

 

[evilwebby]

Something tells me that we will do well to have this sorted by 2032, never mind 2022.

 

[murphy89]

Peel will have nothing to do with the stadium though.

No, but Peel have the planning permission for the overall scheme and can dictate what is built there. They will make concessions in other areas to comprise with UNESCO over the stadium. Peel need to stadium as it kick starts part of the scheme which was scheduled to for a few years.

 

[Walken]

'When talking about creative ways to find more money, one of Joe Anderson's ideas is to invest quite a lot of money in Everton's new stadium and it is one that is causing a lot of debate in the city. Would you agree with these types of speculative investments?

Speculative investments, as you put it, are not necessarily wrong. Local authorities going into enterprise is not necessarily wrong. Northumberland and Arch is a very good example of municipal investment - where they have invested in housing; in some cases, shopping centres, hotels, factories and jobs and they have become quite a good economic generator.

And certainly I would see a regional investment bank as part of our national investment bank strategy. Investing in local enterprise and new developments is a good thing to do. I'm not opposed to it at all - but obviously you have to take very cautious decisions when doing so.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/exclusive-interview-jeremy-corbyn-talks-14767246

well done corbyn on his answer, the question clearly attempting to lead to a negative response

 

[joey_macmo]

But he didn't mention it in his first press conference so it must be off

 

[royalblue66]

But he didn't mention it in his first press conference so it must be off

Must have wanted him to dig the footings.

 

[Goat]

 

[Boss_Rarkley]

Interesting reading an article from 2016 on the Aston Villa's "my old man said" forum with the following extract about Wyness and their Owner Xia interest in Everton pre Villa:

"A couple of phone conversations MOMS had with a Everton source last week, confirmed that Keith Wyness himself and a Chinese consortium had been looking into Everton earlier this year.

MOMS was informed that one of Wyness and the Chinese consortium’s specific interests regarding Everton was in the Football Quarter project in Liverpool, a regeneration space that would celebrate the city’s footballing tradition and was proposed by both the ‘Keep Everton in the City’ group and the Spirit of Shankly.

Wyness allegedly was keen to meet council officials, including the Mayor of Liverpool, to discuss the possibilities."

I wonder if Moshiri was just one of many groups looking at the Liverpool waters/rejuventation project and investing into EFC was key in getting a foot in the door.

Whats also hopeful is should planning permission be granted/once the stadium is given the go ahead l can certainly see Moshiri selling us on to a mega rich individual or group/ or at the minimum some rich group investing in the club/stadium.

 

[Mikelangelo]

Interesting reading an article from 2016 on the Aston Villa's "my old man said" forum with the following extract about Wyness and their Owner Xia interest in Everton pre Villa:

"A couple of phone conversations MOMS had with a Everton source last week, confirmed that Keith Wyness himself and a Chinese consortium had been looking into Everton earlier this year.

MOMS was informed that one of Wyness and the Chinese consortium’s specific interests regarding Everton was in the Football Quarter project in Liverpool, a regeneration space that would celebrate the city’s footballing tradition and was proposed by both the ‘Keep Everton in the City’ group and the Spirit of Shankly.

Wyness allegedly was keen to meet council officials, including the Mayor of Liverpool, to discuss the possibilities."

I wonder if Moshiri was just one of many groups looking at the Liverpool waters/rejuventation project and investing into EFC was key in getting a foot in the door.

Whats also hopeful is should planning permission be granted/once the stadium is given the go ahead l can certainly see Moshiri selling us on to a mega rich individual or group/ or at the minimum some rich group investing in the club/stadium.

Not getting the point of this post?

 

[degsy]

Not getting the point of this post?

The point is; it will - all things being relatively equal etc - take place, just maybe not a quick as some would like.
Thats my take anyway, with the lingering doubt always nagging away at the back of my mind that this is Everton

#definate maybe

 

[Mikelangelo]

The point is; it will - all things being relatively equal etc - take place, just maybe not a quick as some would like.
Thats my take anyway, with the lingering doubt always nagging away at the back of my mind that this is Everton

#definate maybe

Not sure that’s the point either

 

[Boss_Rarkley]

Not getting the point of this post?

Well some speculate Moshiri is only here due to the Liverpool waters project/BMD stadium which that article not only adds credit to that but suggests to me atleast that this will go ahead as no doubt irons will have been in the fire for many months imo.