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New Everton Stadium

blulouie said:
There's a cracker of 2 kids sitting on the Nelson dock looking over the water to the Stadium South Stand , can't find it anywhere but it is boss.
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Is this the one ?
 

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Jacko93 said:
As far as I am aware, the seats are locked into whatever position they are in. So if its standing, you can't sit. Also, with the plan for a mid riser, allowing capacity increase by doubling the rows, that would mean you couldn't drop the seat anyway. This isn't definate though, just an assumption on my part.
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I have stood on both the Dortmund Wall and the Spurs Wall. There is a seat with a rail in front of it so you could sit if you wanted too, though you wouldn't see anything as everyone in front is standing. By the way there was an amazing atmosphere at Dortmund and a terrible one at Spurs. This was nothing to do with the size of the stand - in the end it's the fans that count. Our South Stand will be great when we play well and awful when we play badly.
 
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Mike Young, a Principal Façade Engineer at Laing O’Rourke, explained: “These are real bricks, hand-made in Loughborough and then sent away to be cut into 520,000 different, individual half brick components. Each one has a special key cut into the back, so they are able to be cast into the concrete panels.

Mr Young explained how building the cladding away from the stadium site had significant benefits to those involved in its construction. He said: “Off-site construction is significantly safer than traditional brick cladding methods, so the guys working in the factory are going to be far less exposed to various hazards that they would be on-site.


“There will be 731 panels in total and 240 brick coping panels that go on the very top to finish it all off and it’s a complex process in which with every panel has been individually designed in a 3D environment. This is the first glimpse of how the stadium is going to look aesthetically from the outside and, for me, as a façade engineer looking after all the external look, this is the first significant part of the envelope of the building, so it’s exciting. It’s been two years in the making to get to this point and it signifies that 2023 is going to be a very busy year.

“When the cladding panels eventually make it to site, we have a team of four operatives working on the north west core, plus one in the crane and a couple of engineers, which is significantly less people exposed to the various hazards. If we were doing this in a traditional brickwork build, the whole building would be scaffolded and we would need heavy machinery to move around the bricks and other materials, so doing it this way shrinks the construction programme quite significantly. Another thing is that when the brick cladding comes to site, the quality assurance that is done in the factory far exceeds what we can guarantee on site."

Mr Young added: “The design team put a lot of effort into the software to ensure that every panel has the pattern perfectly set out, so that under the factory conditions we could individually place the bricks exactly into the mould, knowing we are always going to get the correct brick in the correct location, which will ultimately create the Leitch truss pattern.

“Then in the factory, we use augmented reality, so we can look over the panels from a quality perspective, to make sure that every dark red brick is where it should be in the design. Ultimately, once it is finished, we’ll get the Leitch truss pattern. The trick, and the difficulty that the architect had, was the fact that although the panels are relatively consistent, the gaps between the panels are not, so every single brick panel is unique in its overall pattern.”
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The pointing on them panels look shoddy tbh, they'll have to come down.

Note to self... don't stand under panels when at the game
 

BullensRoad said:
Nah you're struggling to deal with facts he's put forward.

It'll be an amazing stadium but the scope that was proposed originally is horrendously out of range to the original design.
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I don't understand the hate Tom gets here.

He probably knows more about stadium design than any other poster but is shouted down as being negative when he points out facts.

The amount of work he (and others) did around the time of the Kirkby debacle, when Mr. Everton thought it was perfectly acceptable to continually lie about Goodison means he should be respected for his views.
 
BNJ1878 said:
I don't understand the hate Tom gets here.

He probably knows more about stadium design than any other poster but is shouted down as being negative when he points out facts.

The amount of work he (and others) did around the time of the Kirkby debacle, when Mr. Everton thought it was perfectly acceptable to continually lie about Goodison means he should be respected for his views.
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I completely agree.

He knows what he's talking about and what he's saying is facts.

Any rightful criticism to the mitigation of the original design should be open to discussion without being abused.
 
Personally I'm not a fan of safe standing, people will stand if they want anyway.

Found it annoying at spurs away, getting smashed before half time but you find yourself leaning back chatting to the guy next to you who's half a meter away from you.
 

BullensRoad said:
Nah you're struggling to deal with facts he's put forward.

It'll be an amazing stadium but the scope that was proposed originally is horrendously out of range to the original design.
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No, I’m not. I simply replied with some facts of my own.

Straight forward, hard facts.

“It’ll be an amazing stadium” and yet people are still complaining about it.

Once the standing legislation changes, we’ll have the most intimate, intimidating 58k stadium in world football.

Spurs South stand holds 17.5k and the capacity can’t be increased when the safe standing rules change. Our capacity will rise to 16k, 4k bigger than the Kop, Holte End etc. All on a tighter footprint. It’ll be sensational.

If we’d built the 60k seats version, then safe standing legislation changes, we’d be looking at a near 70k stadium (assuming we’d have had the same amount of safe standing places)

We’d have thousands of empty seats in that for a lot of games.

The club have gotten it spot on.
 
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John BCN said:
I have stood on both the Dortmund Wall and the Spurs Wall. There is a seat with a rail in front of it so you could sit if you wanted too, though you wouldn't see anything as everyone in front is standing. By the way there was an amazing atmosphere at Dortmund and a terrible one at Spurs. This was nothing to do with the size of the stand - in the end it's the fans that count. Our South Stand will be great when we play well and awful when we play badly.
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I haven't been in Spur's South stand yet (hopefully next season), but have been on the South Tribune a few times (the first time it was half the current size). Last time I was there most of it was an old fashioned terrace, with only the rear section as rail seats. For European games it was fully seated. The South tribune standing has a much bigger capacity than the Spurs stand and if you include the seated corners is probably almost twice the capacity. It also has a down sloping roof which really holds and funnels the noise. Great atmosphere and view as far as I can remember. If greater ratio safestanding is ever allowed that gap would close a bit for both ours and Spurs end stands.
 

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