So they’ve built it approx 5-10mtrs too far north AND a full size pitch won’t fit? Ffs, Everton that, kenwrongs fault, should have let Meis build it, DBB should be sacked, etc etc
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Who knows mate. Could probably ado woth an image when the Dock wasn't filled in tbh, for all we know that picture may show land we've borrowed and we started using it immediately.
Maybe UU CEO is a raging Kopite and refuses to sell us the land or maybe they do use that land (at night like you suggested)
All we know is we have to work within a certain space and Everton were happy with the space offered
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Oh I think UU have been entitled to use their side of that boundary between the two docks. Everton have used their land on that side and there's only a tiny sliver left to get access to that North Stand. That was their choice to do it that way and UU are under no obligation to EFC.
But a utilitarian approach should be adopted in a civic community if possible.
It shouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility for EFC / UU / Peel in the future to revisit this and look at the land rent.
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Oh I think UU have been entitled to use their side of that boundary between the two docks. Everton have used their land on that side and there's only a tiny sliver left to get access to that North Stand. That was their choice to do it that way and UU are under no obligation to EFC.
But a utilitarian approach should be adopted in a civic community if possible.
It shouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility for EFC / UU / Peel in the future to revisit this and look at the land rent.
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Possibly mate, but then that would be Everton chucking another 50-100m on an extension.
Could happen if we are successful again
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
You’re probably right. In my head I assumed there would be access all the way round.@Bluestar You see where that blue, red and yellow cherry pickers are, thats not our land, thats owned by UU. Where that brick Facade is (which will have the Leitch criss cross pattern, just to the left of that is a black post with a white base. In between that post and the brick facade is where the access road will be (once UU take their land back they've borrowed)
That was my understanding anyway mate, I might be wrong though as its been known 79% of the time
Yep I think so. I think @Jacko93 mentioned that the depth of the rows were quite deep to hopefully enable more people if the standing ratio is ever increased.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
If as @maccavennie says that land has been borrowed from UU it at least underlines that the UU plant functions pefectly well without all that space it's loaned to LOR / EFC to get this stadium built...
The fact is that land is maximised best for stadium access rather than a plant next door that doesn't require it to make its business work efficiently.
The road belongs to the Council, its an access road, you know, to give access to both the plant and the stadium.
But keep banging on about a road, please, its amusing me.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Are you sure about that? If that's the case then that places a different complexion on it.
The part of the UU plant near the stadium is tertiary biological treatment. It’s a sequential batch reactor. There won’t be much need for access until something goes wrong or maintenance is required. Then loads of access is required. It is a vital part of the wastewater treatment and cost £200m to put in a few years ago.
Whether they need the full width of that area for maintenance is moot. There may be some negotiation to be done. Be warned though, Peel and UU hate each other. Peel lost a massive court case to UU over the Manchester Ship Canal and there is no love lost between them.
Why would it belong to the council? It’s not a public highway. It’s a service road for a sewage works and lies within an operational boundary.
Of course not, ive just made it up.