New Everton Stadium

[Jacko93]

Ditto. For all I respect Esk and his knowledge, I've become entrenched with scepticism when it comes to significant projects and Everton.

A new stadium within three years that is on the banks of the Mersey is almost too good to be true. Now one of the best stadiums? Fantasy land.

That's not aimed to discredit or dismiss @The Esk at all, in fact the opposite, it's simply I do not want to be let down like we've been before.

I very, very much doubt that it will be within 3 years. Unless a LOT of work has already happened, and far more than I would think they'd get away with without some serious leaks of information happening.

Unless of course its all being done abroad...

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

I hope we make loads of nice touches, such as the Howard Kendall stand, Dixie Dean end, corner flags with Tim Cahill's face on, things like that.

 

[andy4efc]

I very, very much doubt that it will be within 3 years. Unless a LOT of work has already happened, and far more than I would think they'd get away with without some serious leaks of information happening.

Unless of course its all being done abroad...

We're moving abroad? Great. Now we can get spanked by Barca and Madrid 4 times a season. Christ Sake Everton.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

I very, very much doubt that it will be within 3 years. Unless a LOT of work has already happened, and far more than I would think they'd get away with without some serious leaks of information happening.

Unless of course its all being done abroad...

I know the Germans are good at prefabs but come on...

 

[anton66]

Only need 55k to begin with, and have the ability to expand by an extra 5 or 10k down the line

If it's made of lego then it shouldn't be a problem.

 

[royalbalou]

If it's made of lego then it shouldn't be a problem.

Where's the bat lights Mosh?

 

[The Esk]

Ditto. For all I respect Esk and his knowledge, I've become entrenched with scepticism when it comes to significant projects and Everton.

A new stadium within three years that is on the banks of the Mersey is almost too good to be true. Now one of the best stadiums? Fantasy land.

That's not aimed to discredit or dismiss @The Esk at all, in fact the opposite, it's simply I do not want to be let down like we've been before.

I think that's fair judged on the past, but in the near 50 years I've been an Evertonian I've never seen and heard so much optimism at the highest levels in the club. Clearly though we need to see that optimism turned into reality.

All the ingredients are there, and I believe they'll be achieved.

 

[4737carlin]

3 years from now we will still be in Goodison, but I fully expect there to at least be a spade in the ground in 3 years time. Big projects take time, look at the New Royal hospital, that has been going on for ages now. However im sure there has been a lot going on behind the scenes just like there was when Moshiri came in, that had been going on for ages with common knowledge, then right out the blue boom.

 

[riddick]

I'd hope whoever is looking at a design they make sure to have the sound enhanced by the acoustics of the stadium. Kind of like the Seattle Seahawks stadium, it's considerably louder than most others because they made sure that the acoustics were an integral part of the experience.

ie: Fortress Goodison pt 2

 

[The Esk]

I very, very much doubt that it will be within 3 years. Unless a LOT of work has already happened, and far more than I would think they'd get away with without some serious leaks of information happening.

Unless of course its all being done abroad...

Agree I don't think it's 3 years.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Agree I don't think it's 3 years.

3 years (Anderson) always sounded like a politician/fan talk...

 

[Jacko93]

I know the Germans are good at prefabs but come on...

The building of it wouldn't take that long actually, a new build could be up in a little over 12 months from start to finish, the bit taking the time would be the design period, even if you look at the standard stages.

Stage 0 - Strategic Definition (2-3 Months) - Architect, cost consultant, Civils

Stage 1 - Preparation and Brief (Few months) Architect, cost consultant, Civils, MEP Consultant, Structural Consultant

Stage 2 - Concept Design (4-6 Months) Architect, cost consultant, Civils, MEP Consultant, Structural Consultant - Tender packges will go out

Stage 3 - Developed Design (9-12 Months) Architect, cost consultant, Civils, MEP Consultant, Structural Consultant (dependant of form of contract, contractors may get involved at this point to steer buildability in design. Loads of people involved at this point. There would be a huge amount of information getting out there is people needed/wanted to know. This would then be put the planning authority prior to cost commitment

Stage 4 - Technical Design (9-12 Months) A builder would be on board now and assume project responsibility, the Architect, if Novated, will work for the builder, not the Client, same with other consultants.
Stage 4a -Consulatants responsility and leads to Guaranteed Maximum Price
Stage 4b - Cost agreed and Builder takes responsibility for delivery - All now in hands of the Contractors with Consultant support. manufacturers on board
Stage 4c - Construction level detail of drawings and start of any off-site fabrication

Stage 5 - Construction (circa 12 Months)

Stage 6 - Handover

Stage 7 - In Use Limbs AOTS



It takes forever to get a project of this size off the ground. Now, in reality, Stages 0,1 could be done from anywhere in the word really, at a real stretch, stage 2. But site visits and visible work would have to start happening in order for the later stages to progress. That would mean the hiring of a company in order to do it.

Thats my thoughts on it anyway. they may have a way of doig all this and keeping it really, really quiet, but if they have it's a new on on me and would n't align wit the riba stages>

 

[BiggyRat]

Negotiations are progressing and we're likely to have the best club stadium in the country - that's how things are going.

Suck it Kopites!

 

[paulf]

Suck it Kopites!

Holy moly Steven Pienaar didn't waste time getting back to normal family life

 

[Hangleton]

We're moving abroad? Great. Now we can get spanked by Barca and Madrid 4 times a season. Christ Sake Everton.

Moving to Scotland to stay in Europe. Guaranteed CL every year. Top 3 and a good chance at a cup.