New Everton Stadium

[Kever10]

This is why I'm sceptical about people saying it'll generate a great atmosphere- my experience of grounds with high roofs is that it tends to be difficult to get anything going in those parts. So whilst the south stand might be great the rest might be a bit meh.

I dont understand this at all. The loudest stand we currently have, that generates the most atmosphere, is the streeet end, and the roof there doesnt even cover half the stand.

In my opinion, if we get enough people making noise on all 4 sides it will be very loud. And capacity wise, we could feasibly fit a full house at Goodison in the North, East and West stands. So we have essentially added the South end "Blue Wall" as additional capacity.

We just need a team to give people something to shout about, and a pricing structure that doesnt price anyone out of going.

 

[The binman chronicles]

The North Stand makes it look like an upmarket, better-appointed Aviva. People might not like that observation, but the dip takes a little bit from the new stadium. Croke Park suffers from the same problem. Where Bramley-Moore succeeds however is in masking that from the outside, something the two Irish stadia fail to do.

What you might be missing here is some perspective. The North stand is still way taller than either goal stand at Goodison, in fact it is only about 8 rows shorter than the Main Stand. Even if you knock that many rows off the top of the MS it would still be an impressive height.

It cannot be seriously compared to either of those stadiums.

 

[kiss the crest]

Anyone know when the turf is getting laid? Or are they doing seeds?

 

[vintage-toffees]

Anyone know when the turf is getting laid? Or are they doing seeds?

I’m sure it’s a hybrid of seeds and fibres that get sown in

 

[Eggs]

Anyone know when the turf is getting laid? Or are they doing seeds?

…it’s certainly not grass as we know/knew it. I’m surprised how firm it stays and unsurprised injuries like Rodri’s occur.

 

[Drico]

What you might be missing here is some perspective. The North stand is still way taller than either goal stand at Goodison, in fact it is only about 8 rows shorter than the Main Stand. Even if you knock that many rows off the top of the MS it would still be an impressive height.

It cannot be seriously compared to either of those stadiums.

Yes, let's see what it's like when opened and full.

I think people need to accept that not everyone is going to worship at the altar of our new stadium. It's clearly a magnificent structure, a massive upgrade, and a very exciting and necessary development, but not everyone is going to be blown away. I'm impressed by the early sense that it is going to produce a claustrophobic atmosphere, and less impressed by the glass windows - particularly in the North Stand - as they take a little from the contigious sweep of the seats.

Everyone will have their own view. Nobody is forced to agree with anyone's.

 

[ashwuk76]

Anyone know when the turf is getting laid? Or are they doing seeds?

I'm more interested in if we are getting new lawn mowers....

 

[The binman chronicles]

Yes, let's see what it's like when opened and full.

I think people need to accept that not everyone is going to worship at the altar of our new stadium. It's clearly a magnificent structure, a massive upgrade, and a very exciting and necessary development, but not everyone is going to be blown away. I'm impressed by the early sense that it is going to produce a claustrophobic atmosphere, and less impressed by the glass windows - particularly in the North Stand - as they take a little from the contigious sweep of the seats.

Everyone will have their own view. Nobody is forced to agree with anyone's.

Got no problem whatsoever with people saying they dislike certain bits or even all of it, if it's not their cup of tea. There is quite a few bits I do not like and I'm a fan of it in general.

I'm just commenting on the comparison you made, which I feel is not a faithful one. Take the Aviva for instance, the small tier is 15m (that's including the glass and roof structure), if you had the seats going up to that height, it would look fairly decent (imho). The back row of our North stand is somewhere around 24m.

Point taken the high roof isn't probably best for atmosphere, but the loudest recorded noise at one didn't even have a roof and the away fans are there so least we are diminishing them if it is worse.

 

[Tom Hughes]

I dont understand this at all. The loudest stand we currently have, that generates the most atmosphere, is the streeet end, and the roof there doesnt even cover half the stand.

In my opinion, if we get enough people making noise on all 4 sides it will be very loud. And capacity wise, we could feasibly fit a full house at Goodison in the North, East and West stands. So we have essentially added the South end "Blue Wall" as additional capacity.

We just need a team to give people something to shout about, and a pricing structure that doesnt price anyone out of going.

The Gwladys St is the traditional home end, home to the most vociferous fans, so it is almost bound to be the noisiest part of the ground. That doesn't make it a particularly loud stand though. I fairly regularly sit near the half-way line in the Top Balcony, and quite often the much smaller Park End actually sounds louder, despite having only just over half the capacity. So yes, if everyone is up for it, any stand can be noisy, but the tiered format and roof design can greatly help to help generate and promote a good atmosphere. Plus, when talking about stadium acoustics, there is a difference between designing for whole-stadium-atmosphere and individual-stand atmosphere of a traditional home end. A lot was made of trying to emulate Dortmund's Yellow wall. Creating one end that was the powerhouse for the rest of the stadium in terms of atmosphere. The South stand may well be that, but would've been far more so if it was slightly larger and those rearmost rows had been closer to the roof, for greater acoustic catchment.

At present we have a 2 home end format with both stands of different format/identities/demographics and on occasion, both stands almost chant in unison to generate a great whole-stadium-atmosphere. That might recur at BMD, but the north stand, being so much smaller and so distant from its roof, might not quite have the acoustic umph to do it. Then again, perhaps that large glass wall and the over-arched roof will allow the chants from the South stand to reverberate around the whole stadium, bringing it all together.

 

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[miami]

I think the glass and brick aspects add a little bit of class to the stadium. I don’t like the way a lot of stadiums these days, including goodison, have added all the fancy exterior cladding of images of players, managers, club badges etc. I think it looks cheap and tacky.

I really despise Bournemouth’s interior stand walls that are replete with images of players etc. when you watch games on tv from there it gives off the impression that the stadium is built from cardboard.

Im glad bramley moore has restrictions on all this tacky fanfare. We don’t need a big neon sign at the ground displaying ‘Everton FC’. The ground will be so iconic that everyone will know it’s our home.

As for the atmosphere; no matter what shape the stands and stadium convey, if 53,000 evertonians can’t make massive noise on matchdays, it won’t be the stadium design where the problem lies, it’ll be our own fault.

 

[Librarian]

 

[McKindrick Blue]

Yup, lacks a little character architecturally, in my view. I think the huge glass facades at each end take a little something from it, too. Early days, yet, so let's see what it's like with people. It does evoke a certain claustrophobia from what I have seen so far, so I think observations now and merely that, observations.

It's all subjective. I think the windows at each end actually add the architectural character you mention. It would look even less "interesting" inside if the "bowl" just continued round at the North end . In my opinion of course.

 

[brieverton]

Quite astonishing really that construction has begun and been completed during arguably the most turbulent and chaotic period in the clubs history.

To a large extent this has soured the enjoyment of the development for me. Having to contend with relegation battles, points deductions, and general chaos. Wondering if it gets finished, what league we'll be in.

It will be recalled in years to come and people will wonder how it got started, let alone finished..

I very much doubt also that any other stadium in modern times had such complex and unconventional funding.

It is literally almost miraculous that it is where it is now. For that to mean anything it must become the catalyst for renewal of the club. There has been blood, sweat, and tears put into this.