New Everton Stadium

Middlesbrough built a new ground by the docks but its a bit dull and surrounded by industrial unit still after over 20 years.
I went to Bolton for a mid week game, Felliani scored a late winner, and a lad I got talking to before the game said a good few supporters stopped going when they moved out of the town as they felt it was the wrong thing to do. We were talking about going to Kirby around that time.
We have it right with the waterfront location, staying in the city, and if the surrounding area gets developed with lots of ale houses and places to eat, we will be onto a winner.

I think you need to take what that Bolton fan said with a pinch of salt mate, Boltons crowds since moving are bigger than ever really, in average.

It didn't move out of the town, just out of the centre and just to another part of town, where other large Bolton areas can now access their team better.

The ones that are unhappy, and the ones that lived closer to Burnden Park - or are just more old skool who prefer to stand, and to urinate in outdoor bogs.

It has its faults like any ground, but that retail park is the biggest in europe (or maybe the UK) - And is great for the town, its full all the time - it killed the town centre as a result, so maybe some bitterness in that respect form Town Centre folk.
 

It’s a fuss over nothing this rain business.

I’ve never been to a football match in wet weather and stayed dry.

You get wet coming in and leaving regardless of how good the roof is.

No big deal.
Also, importantly, lots of the perspectives of seats being 'soaked' are taken from images zoomed in from on high, rather than being in the actual stadium.

Are these seats far back from the touchline actually wet? Let's wait and see rather than the presumptions made on here.
 
Also, importantly, lots of the perspectives of seats being 'soaked' are taken from images zoomed in from on high, rather than being in the actual stadium.

Are these seats far back from the touchline actually wet? Let's wait and see rather than the presumptions made on here.
Also, the people around you cop some of the rain headed for you in a full ground anyway.

And wet ground under your feet isn’t the same as a wet face.

You can’t judge anything from it, as you say.
 
I didn't bring up this issue. Nor is it a new one.

I also sit in row P of the Park End and in 30 yrs have never arrived at my seat to see the floor/seat wet nor have ever got soaked while sitting there myself. Occasional drops of rain or hail in a gust perhaps, but nothing remotely close to what we can see at BMD.

I accepted Goodison's possible fate decades ago and even voted for it for the King's Dock.
THOMAS
Do you know the ground Isn’t finished yet? We still have work to do, which is why we aren’t playing in it yet.


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I'm afraid that this argument that "they can't be questioned because they're LOR", or "they are mathematical genuises" holds little or no water (if you'll pardon the pun). Just as it didn't
when people asked if KEIOC knew more than Terry Leahy and other assorted "experts" etc. For the most part, their qualifications in maths will be no higher than mine..... I'm not sure why my CV is always questioned, but I have actually taught/mentored Engineering maths to Mechanical/Structural Engineering undergraduates and Merchant Navy Officer cadets for decades, as part of my job....

However, again, this has nothing to do with the simple observation and scientific fact that.... rain doesn't always fall vertically, and consequently, it is good practice to have the front edge of a stadium roof as low as possible and/or as far in-field of the front row, as is practicable. This is covered in all stadium design guides/books.

The soak pattern is entirely predictable. Varying levels of partial protection are offered for anything upto 45° off the verical, with very poor protection at anything less than 15° from that line. If it goes well beyond the first few rows, to the extent that even some in the posh seats get an occasional soaking, then that is a design flaw.

The SoFi Stadium is not in the desert, it is in downtown Los Angeles. It is a direct response to this issue. There are several other fully covered stadia under construction or being planned, and as I said, Man Utd are also considering it. Our stadium is of the same generation, and should encompass the same lessons learnt. Bilbao had a similar problem for their waterfront stadium and have had to retrofit an inner roof to solve the problem. I asked the LOR engineer about it at the shareholders consultation a couple of years ago, he had no other response than it was a stadium and some people get wet, pass the poncho.

Tom seriously, words on the internet are nothing. If you're that much of a stadium hero why didn't you work in any of the sectors that provide them?
 

I think you need to take what that Bolton fan said with a pinch of salt mate, Boltons crowds since moving are bigger than ever really, in average.

It didn't move out of the town, just out of the centre and just to another part of town, where other large Bolton areas can now access their team better.

The ones that are unhappy, and the ones that lived closer to Burnden Park - or are just more old skool who prefer to stand, and to urinate in outdoor bogs.

It has its faults like any ground, but that retail park is the biggest in europe (or maybe the UK) - And is great for the town, its full all the time - it killed the town centre as a result, so maybe some bitterness in that respect form Town Centre folk.
They moved out of town, when you left Bolton you started passing fields full of sheep.
 
How do you think 40000 people get to Goodison now?
Lots walk, many drive and a significant percentage use public transport, including regular bus routes. There are no regular bus routes that go near the new stadium (or very few). That's why I am anxious to see what the plans are for extra trains and Soccerbuses. We will find out soon, I guess. I hope they are decent because not everyone wants to walk for a mile and a half from the city centre, not everyone is capable of doing so and even those who will do it with no fuss in decent weather, won't want to walk it in the cold and driving rain.
 
Lots walk, many drive and a significant percentage use public transport, including regular bus routes. There are no regular bus routes that go near the new stadium (or very few). That's why I am anxious to see what the plans are for extra trains and Soccerbuses. We will find out soon, I guess. I hope they are decent because not everyone wants to walk for a mile and a half from the city centre, not everyone is capable of doing so and even those who will do it with no fuss in decent weather, won't want to walk it in the cold and driving rain.

You're getting anxious over nothing my friend. It will be much easier to get to than goodison as it's not surrounded by terraced housing.

Nothing changed it's an improvement. If it bothers you that much and you can't get a cab just don't go.
 
I totally agree with your post and what you say is accurate. Just be prepared for a load of responses telling you a) it's a 10 minute walk from anywhere and b) we're Evertonians, we don't need public transport. Good luck.
It’s right by Sandhills train station. You can get a train from Central, or Moorefields right there in 5 minutes.
 

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