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Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
The Spurs stadium is on a whole different level to be honest. It is a bigger and far more complex stadium. Approx 10k more seats, 4 times the number of boxes and larger corporate/hospitality capacity, in their own higher-value dedicated tiers. Apart from the single tier south stand, it has between 3 and 4/5 tiers on the other sides. There are between 5 and 9 floors of concourses on the North, East and West Stands compared to just 2 and 4 floors at BMD. Of course the curved corner sections and moving pitch are other very expensive design features, with the latter adding far great flexibility for the venue to host other events all year round. So overall there is no real comparison.
As stated many times by others, BMD required a massive outlay just to get the structure above ground. The site prep costs and additional Marine environment issues, dug very deep into that total construction budget. The concerns over the heritage aspects during the whole planning process, meant that there was also a far greater onus placed on quality of exterior design and historic site conservation. Which all incurred major additional construction and material costs. The overall result being that the internal format is generally much more generic or basic compared to the Spurs stadium. Tbh, those massive site-specific costs also meant that it is more basic than even the Walton Hall Park proposals. Furthermore, if you overlaid BMD's side stand cross sections with the cross sections for the destination Kirkby proposals, you will find that they are very similar internal design formats. Of course, the Kirkby proposals didn't have a large single tier end stand, and the corners were left emply for future expansion. The exterior was also functional only, with no barrel roof or indeed any real design flair of any note. That said, sometimes "less is more" in design respects, and BMD may have greater acoustic unity than Spurs due to that simpler format, with no real overlapping of tiers etc. Of course, many will also argue that all of BMDs relative simplicity is offset by the quality of it's location.
duncs pigeon
Player Valuation: £35m
Probably once HSE give the go ahead.
I went to BMD then Goodison for the Forest game, BMD is fantastic and for the first time, I sat in Goodison and it wasnt doing as much for me anymore, tired, crap facilities, cramped and the shabbite on the pitch didnt help but its time to go. Its when your long beloved dog is in pain and giving up, its time for goodison to go to the stadium vet for a dose of the 'blue liquid' of sleep
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
What the video shows is that the industry has gone from mainly having just one type of box, to several different types of box/suites, at different levels, some not even having views of the pitch, with access to more lounge spaces too to tap further into individual or small group hospitality demand.
None of which really explains why we've gone for just 20-22 boxes, when all of our peers (and many much smaller clubs) still have significantly more suites/boxes. Including Spurs, which only predates ours by a few years and was designed by the same stadium design company that featured predominantly in the video.
Do you know, their new stadium has fewer boxes than White Hart Lane had (roughly 1/3 less), even though their capacity increased by close to 100%?
The video explains why, as a percentage of the entire attendance, boxes take less of a portion, whilst the growth of other hospitality has increased significantly.
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
While it appears to be a valid analogy, it is built on an entirely false premise. A stadium is not a living organism and is therefore far less subject to the aging process, nor the inevitability of death. If so, the likes of Real Madrid have offered an entirely different medical prognosis, with the result being a stadium of the highest "pedigree" for a fraction of the cost of a brand new equivalent.
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
Yes, but their box seat capacity is not dissimilar, as many of the boxes at the old ground were smaller. Yes, there has been a shift, but by any measure, just 20-22boxes is very low for a new 52k stadium.
Some people are absolutely joyless mate.
And they’ll make you feel guilty for not being as negative as them.
Kevsleftpeg
Player Valuation: £8m
Have you though about volunteering to give BMD stadium tours? You'd be a massive hit with Liverpool fans.
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
No-one is "moaning" or "joyless". If you feel that some facts and figures are negative, then perhaps you need to argue about their validity/context, and if not, reconsider your assessment of the issues raised.
Blue peter
Player Valuation: £35m
The leccy bill must cost a fortune
Blue peter
Player Valuation: £35m
Will be interesting in the coming years if TFG do intend to do further work to the stadium, whether that be to increase capacity (although foot print limited) or just other things