Toffeeslam
Player Valuation: £35m
Who at the club thinks will make us great again ?
I guess we won’t be seeing you at the game next season then
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Who at the club thinks will make us great again ?
I guess we won’t be seeing you at the game next season then
Don’t conflate the ground with Dyche. He won’t set foot in there as manager.
Possibly as manager of our first championship rivals in August- stranger things have happened.
GoodisonRoadSupperBarWool
Player Valuation: £8m
It’s a line that’s constantly used “ we just need to get to the new stadium” like all our problems are fixed for some reason.
That’s up for debate if I am going or not .
It is true though. Goodison just doesn't create the revenue going forward but the New Stadium will give us the opportunity to move forward. Don't think anyone believes it will make us great again but surely it gives us a better chance escaping the relegation battles of the previous few seasons.
Blue peter
Player Valuation: £35m
I went out tonight with my dad to take a look at it again and it truly looks great lit up in gas mark 4, but then you think of the performance today.
It feels like having the hangover before the fun of the night out.
It feels like having the hangover before the fun of the night out.
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Our problems don't just disappear with the stadium but gives us a fighting chance with PSR.
It's pretty simple, if you earn 20k a year and someone offers you 60k you'll find life a little easier. Of course no guarantees you don't piss the extra up the wall or at the betting shop, but if you are careful you should see benefits.
Currently we earn 12m more in matchday income than Bournemouth, that's two 115k a week players. At BMD it should be more like 55m. 9 players salary at 115k a week with some change. That plus with our bigger sponsorship deals should see anyone who is competent make us far better than Bournemouth. So in future we will go there expecting to beat them with the assets we can put out on the pitch. This is what most rational people mean by things will be okay when we get to the new stadium and after a few seasons that income disparity should start to really tell.
The stadium has caused issues with our ability to spend leading to this pain, but if we stayed at Goodison there would be no way out. We would have to consistently punch above our weight compared to the resources at hand.
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
But it is OK for some to conflate GP with our recent failure?
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
If you want to use a conflation argument, you could also say it's "true" that the cost of the new stadium has caused the club to be completely financially hamstrung for the past few years, getting us to this point, where our squad is truly abysmal, with relegation and PSR breathing down our necks for the umpteenth season on the trot! Ultimately, turning the club into a distressed asset, to the point of forcing the owner to have to sell the whole thing for a fraction of the stadium-build alone, before it was even built!
It's an entirely false premise to say it's a question of either a low-income dilapidated GP (with nothing spent on it), or BMD, with over 3/4 of a £Billion spent on it. If you're really going to equate projected income equivalence as an argument, you also have to have a basic cost equivalence of both options. Otherwise, your either/or equation is fundamentally incorrect. A fraction of the BMD spend could've got GP upto to 53k, a bit more than that minimal outlay could have got it up to 60k+, with more boxes/corporate, more GA seats and correspondingly more income. Yes, slightly less of that "whole new fresh restart" factor. Yes, no Shiny new "on the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey Stadium" with massive "post card" royalties. Yes, no "small" walk from town, with "real ale on tap" pubs in abundance...... but also probably with NO PSR infringement and NO Dyche ball...... with History and tradition preserved etc.
Hopefully, the take-over and Moshiri absorbing the bulk of the debt, shifts that equation firmly back in BMD's favour, but let's be clear that, that has only been via an almost catastrophic failure of the club in every respect, which in most ways started with this entirely false equivalence assessment of the stadium options. Essentially, we may have just fluked it... (if we stay up), So, let's not cook da books to make it sound like it was always based on sound business principles.
Whats a lifelong fan in your view....only someone who has had a season ticket and booing the fook out of the team for the last 40 years? I'm calling BS on that.
I'm a lifelong fan and have bought tickets when I can and had the odd season with a ST. I would also suggest that someone like Mr Drone is highly likely to be a lifelong fan. Everyone has different circumstances that only allows them to show support in certain ways
There will be plenty getting tickets to the test event much less deserving than some of the drone flyers after all their efforts they have put in the last years to document the BMD build.for all our enjoyment.
Dyche’s football has poisoned our last season at Goodison - but he won’t be there in the new ground.
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
Perhaps, but he probably wouldn't have been there in the first place without our hamstrung financial state, seeing off multiple managers.
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
Someone left the hob on..... looks just the same.