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Newcastle Utd (and Viz)


The Fish said:
Training Ground is a decade behind the times. It'd be nice to have a new ground, but it's not a priority right now. 52k is fine for our mooted short term goals. It needs some TLC, and some updating, but it's fine for now. One thing, St James' park is not heavily associated with Ashley. They'll tear down his Sports Direct signs and we'll have our ground back.

One flight of fantasy is the revival of a plan from the late 90s to build a brand new stadium on the park beside St James'.
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Yes I think thats fair.

I hink St James's park is fine and is not a top priority, but we have to honest enough to objectively say it's not one of the top grounds in the country or even a level down. It's one thing to say potential big backing could attract players, but it's another saying that the ground and particularly the training ground will be factors. Players will be attracted in spite of, not because of those things.

The issue you will have re sponsorship of the ground, is Ashley has already hamstrung you with paying small amount for the sponsorship and thus established a "market value" which they will be keen to hold you to moving forward. It's a miserly manoeuvre but it's the sort of small minded pettiness that the PL are famed for.
 
catcherintherye said:
Yes I think thats fair.

I hink St James's park is fine and is not a top priority, but we have to honest enough to objectively say it's not one of the top grounds in the country or even a level down. It's one thing to say potential big backing could attract players, but it's another saying that the ground and particularly the training ground will be factors. Players will be attracted in spite of, not because of those things.

The issue you will have re sponsorship of the ground, is Ashley has already hamstrung you with paying small amount for the sponsorship and thus established a "market value" which they will be keen to hold you to moving forward. It's a miserly manoeuvre but it's the sort of small minded pettiness that the PL are famed for.
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I would say it's a level below. It's a 52k all seater stadium. It's not Old Trafford, but it's no Dean Court.

Any sponsorship will surely be judged against other Premier League sides, not what the previous owner "paid"?
 

catcherintherye said:
Well perhaps yes. Leicester have almost qualified though. I think avoiding sides at the bottom end of the league is the priority.

In theory yes, it would be a good time to play Everton (though we to are fighting for Europe as you put it, we are only a win behind some of the teams referenced above) but the caveat with Everton is they are trying to impress a new manager, and have been on a run where they are 5th post Silva and 4th since Ancelotti arrived, despite having a disproportionately difficult fixture list. I would say the time to have played us was under Silva, when we were performing as a side in the bottom 3, not the one who's spent over a 3rd of the season performing as a top 5 side.

There's a lack of integrity because you are refusing to answer a simple question. I am having the decency to answer what you are asking, yet you don't have the decency to do the same. Rather than continual asking somewhat irrelevant questions, why don't you answer the questions you've been asked and we can move the discussion forward?

As for the relevance, I would base a teams ability and overall difficulty primarily on where they finish an entire season, when they have played each team home and away once. Until you have done that, you have an incomplete picture, I'm sure you would agree to that, as it's fairly straightforward.

So for about the 6th time, lets see if you can have a bit of persona integrity and actually answer a question? Thats kind of how we work as a fanbase.
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The question you are asking me is one where everyone knows the answer to though; it's in the public domain, so why are you asking me to answer? It's not subjective, like your assertion that Everton have a favourable run-in compared to Newcastle, which what I was disputing. Me answering a meaningless question that is indisputable, in no way furthers your assertion, howevever much you think it does.
 
The Fish said:
I would say it's a level below. It's a 52k all seater stadium. It's not Old Trafford, but it's no Dean Court.

Any sponsorship will surely be judged against other Premier League sides, not what the previous owner "paid"?
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No, I think thats fair. It's a decent older stadium. But it's really not a unique attraction as say maybe 6 or 8 stadiums are.

I think you will find, they will benchmark against what you have received previously. They are very very tight about this, and in honesty if half is what is said is true you will find the old money clubs will make it hard for you.
 

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