Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
Hey lad, you’ve literally signed up to an Everton forum to try and boast about a takeover of your club, now you’re trying to belittle us in the process. Bit sad don’t you think?
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Newcastle Utd (and Viz)
- Thread starter Del-boy
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Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
There's a huge potential problem for Newcastle's new owners - the majority one - Saudi sovereign wealth fund PIF and one of the minority ones Stavely led PCP capital who'll likely be running the club on a day to day basis.
FFP was invented to stop owners putting in millions of pounds into football, EUFA seem quite happy with owners taking millions out of the game but they've now erected huge barriers to prevent owners wanting to invest millions of their own money into their own club and hence into football.
Take millions out of football, UEFA's FFP says ok that's fine go right ahead and take as much as you want.
Put millions of your own money into football and UEFA's FFP say's NO WAY, not unless you do exactly what we say.
Man City found it hard enough despite breaking these ridiculous rules - UEFA never stop in their quest to protect their favoured elite.
FFP was invented to stop owners putting in millions of pounds into football, EUFA seem quite happy with owners taking millions out of the game but they've now erected huge barriers to prevent owners wanting to invest millions of their own money into their own club and hence into football.
Take millions out of football, UEFA's FFP says ok that's fine go right ahead and take as much as you want.
Put millions of your own money into football and UEFA's FFP say's NO WAY, not unless you do exactly what we say.
Man City found it hard enough despite breaking these ridiculous rules - UEFA never stop in their quest to protect their favoured elite.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I think viewing FFP through the lens of legislation that is to prevent the established order being broken up is a very good one worthwhile one. It's certainly been the consequence, where the changes have seen leagues become increasingly dominated by a small number of established teams. Whether that was an explicit, or implicit goal is open to interpretation but it would be hard to not see the fairly obvious consequence of it.
The noise around this deal is really problematic for them. Say what you want re Usmanov, but if he's invovled he's kept it on the downlow. I do wonder if the Saudi's wanted to do the same?
I think if most of the clubs looked back at City, the conclusion would have been, that you need to stop them early and hit them very hard/tie them with red tape and transfer bans. I see that being the position taken by clubs quite early on with Newcastle.
So even if, (which I find unlikely) they want to pump money in, it will be heavily scrutinised and made very difficult to do.
Think he needs to go to a nearby stable and vent his frustrations like a normal Geordie...
Tried to tell him that a bit earlier, but it's just like flogging a dead horse..
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Other corkers include;
1) Oil will be back to normal soon
2) They will be competing with City/Liverpool
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Imagine thinking an investment fund making a purchase of less than 0.1% of its AUM is going to be anything other than a transaction.
Its a bit like a bloke worth £100mil buying a mistress a £100k flat.
Yes, he'll need to give her gifts from time to time and pay her bills but its a total irrelevance....
Its a bit like a bloke worth £100mil buying a mistress a £100k flat.
Yes, he'll need to give her gifts from time to time and pay her bills but its a total irrelevance....
JimmyJeffers
Player Valuation: £70m
Looks like we vanquished those 2 cretins. We (and our horses) can all rest easy now. Well done everyone.
dandydan
Player Valuation: £40m
Won't go down well with the new owners, Saudis love horses. Best bet is to stick with wife beating.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Also factor is- that they seem very reluctant to pay the asking fee, and ask you to find others to pay in to help cover it (and taking a loan from the existing, hated owner). I mean maybe they come and blitz it, but I suspect the are aware they can't do that, but have bought in to make money.
I think Staveley runs the club, and she is tasked with making them a profit. Her reward for doing so is 10% of the growth in the business.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
In a nutshell...yes.
Just imagine if you had £100mil and bought a flat for £100k. Down from £110k or whatever and it took 12 months of haggling.
The mistress wouldnt be too thrilled and yet Geordies are dropping their skirts...even when they know theres 2 other minority shareholders.
Its comical if it wasnt so sad.
This bloke arguing with you seems oblivious to the reality.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I loved the bit about the Reuben Brothers piling money in. I mean, who buys in for 10% of the company, piles a load of money in, for others to benefit. I kind of stopped listening to anything he said after that. I'm sure he's a nice bloke, but he doesn't have a clue of what is happening here if thats your understanding of how the business world works.
Yarrgh
Player Valuation: £70m
As player or manager?
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
That makes absolutely no sense at all does it.
Surely the Reuben brothers have been approached with the shares to redevelop the training ground etc at cost price.
Same as Staveley to run things...
Skin in the game basically which in my view just points at the major shareholder not wanting to pay over the odds and to lower their risk. Otherwise they would do it themselves and pay for the best.
Nothing points to a big spend whatsoever.
In fact it just seems like the Saudis are taking a punt.
Probably both...