ForeverBlue92
Player Valuation: £80m
Come on Catcher, even you know your Iranian owner is a puppet (but I agree with the rest.)
You leave Uncle Uz out of this you!
LONG LIVE USMANOV
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Newcastle Utd (and Viz)
- Thread starter Del-boy
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You leave Uncle Uz out of this you!
LONG LIVE USMANOV
jaycee
Player Valuation: £60m
Doesnt he make out he has "connections" to dangerous people?Biggest mag bell going that attention seeking gimp
Yarrgh
Player Valuation: £70m
Sometime in the last 17 weeks when seeing his name mentioned, I had a look at what he was about and he seemed fairly sensible in his ambitions for the club. As for his exact worth and ability to put them into action, your guess is as good as mine. I'd only worry about his intentions if he has to put down a £17 million deposit and got Staveley in as deal broker.
Right at this moment, I'd walk away from buying a team in the premier league unless it was an obsession. Quite a risky prospect. £300 million seems a motivated sales price for Newcastle, but would I rather pay more if they established themselves in the top division and things had settled out after Covid-19 and have less risk on my money, or pay less for them in the championship and try and make a better return on investment when they come back up and increase the asset's wealth so at least it would be flippable at a profit.
Right at this moment, I'd walk away from buying a team in the premier league unless it was an obsession. Quite a risky prospect. £300 million seems a motivated sales price for Newcastle, but would I rather pay more if they established themselves in the top division and things had settled out after Covid-19 and have less risk on my money, or pay less for them in the championship and try and make a better return on investment when they come back up and increase the asset's wealth so at least it would be flippable at a profit.
anton66
Player Valuation: £50m
FF'S We want Saudis in, we want Saudis in. All together now.....Biggest mag bell going that attention seeking gimp
The quicker they get bought the better as we'll never hear the last of ..... back where we belong.
Yarrgh
Player Valuation: £70m
By dangerous people he means similar nutjobs I would guess. Actual serious organised criminal people are too busy putting together risk mitigation plans for the logistics operations to deal with looney toon gobshites that bring attention to them.
Albertini78
Player Valuation: £10m
The comments on the petition ... Christ on a bike lol
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jaycee
Player Valuation: £60m
I dont know if its true,just something I read/heard,if I was making an educated guess I'd say dangerous as in court orders keeping them away from children and pets
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
A longer post.
It's all a bit unedifying seeing them desperately clinging on, or trying to petition the government to get the PL to approve a takeover it hadn't rejected whe the buyer has elected to withdraw. It's not the UK government's job to force people to buy companies. It will get short shrift and is pointless. I think they understand that now too, most of them, it's only got 5,000 signatures. It's now only a small hardcore of fans peddling this rubbish, and soon the majority of jawdies will see through them. While the buyers shoulder the blame for this, the sychophants who lied to the Newcastle fans, telling them it would be amaxing if it came off, and would go through within a few days on about 6 or 7 occasions also shoulder responibility. If they want to blame anyone, start shoving those liars out of your club, IE anyone who's trying to blame the PL for their own mistakes and lies.
Staveley is a complete liar. I actually think she may be employed by Ashley. It turned out she was working for the seller not the buyer in the City case. It seems far more likely to me she works for Ashley. She's still banging on about trying to make it happen, it's just desperate. The buyer (perhaps her buyer) has pulled the plug. She may be down the tubes for paert of the £17m. Ultimately she's a broker, so she may take 1-3% of the sale fee in this sale (thats a far amount of difference too perhaps between maing £3-£10m) so not an insubstantial some of money. It looked like she was onto a winner as well and would get a chance to run Newcastle and pay herself a mssive salary + bonuses and generally bleed the club while delivering a profit for the buyer. So fo a broker a really good opportunity. All of that is gone now. Thats why there is tears, 3 years of work all for absolutely nothing. Given the lies she's told, and how she's conducted herself through this, it couldn't have happened to a nicer person. Down the tubes for million and the promise of millions lost well as loads of time (and probably money) wasted.
I had a little look through their transfers. Despite Benitez relegating them, they have spent around £500m over the last 4-5 years. It's about £250m+ in the last couple. I mean it's hardly pocket change. Ashley has thrown everything at them, given them massive investment, and primarily Benitez has essentially wasted the money on what is a terrible squad. The real worry for them, is that Ashley now ha little interest, has lost around 30% (conservatively) of his wealth up to Covid this year in the last 2 years, and half his wealth over the last 5 or 6 years (in no small part down to bankrolling Newcastle). He is likely in fairly challenging financial situations, and will not be able to keep the tap on as mentioned above. Compared to recent years, they will need to be a lot more frugal. Not his fault, the fault of the managers he's had who've spent awfully. Not great for Bruce, in his first real summer but the mess Benitez made will have to be cleared up.
I suspect there were more than 1 factor that have caused the buyer to pull out. As widely stated here, I have my doubts the fund were available. It never got to the point where they ahd to show that. The global situation, impacting Saudi specifically won't have helped (the more senior guys in Saudi probably recognised they wouldn't be able to draw money out of Newcastle as they felt previously). As I've said before, Newcastle is an awful investment, terrible academy, awful training facilities, shoddy lob sided ground with awful facilities and no name recognition value as it's associated with sports direct, a club that has gone 65 years with no domestic trophy, a delusional fan base who show no appreciation for what owners can do, and a club that us regularly in the championship. That probably filtered in to their thinking as well.
If Saudi want to seriously invest in football (not what we saw with Newcastle, but a serious investment) they will probably look outside of the PL now. I don't see any big takeovers involving countries going through.
For the jawdies though, nee cans. I suppose a realisation of what they are and where they sit will now come true to them. As I said, they are years behind us. Years behind. Our worst season in 17 years, and their best in years and we still finish above them. That sort of sums up where both cubs are at. Even when we are monumentally bad, we're still comfortably ahead of where they asre at their best.
I'd be plunging a lot of money on them going down right about now if I were a punter.
It's all a bit unedifying seeing them desperately clinging on, or trying to petition the government to get the PL to approve a takeover it hadn't rejected whe the buyer has elected to withdraw. It's not the UK government's job to force people to buy companies. It will get short shrift and is pointless. I think they understand that now too, most of them, it's only got 5,000 signatures. It's now only a small hardcore of fans peddling this rubbish, and soon the majority of jawdies will see through them. While the buyers shoulder the blame for this, the sychophants who lied to the Newcastle fans, telling them it would be amaxing if it came off, and would go through within a few days on about 6 or 7 occasions also shoulder responibility. If they want to blame anyone, start shoving those liars out of your club, IE anyone who's trying to blame the PL for their own mistakes and lies.
Staveley is a complete liar. I actually think she may be employed by Ashley. It turned out she was working for the seller not the buyer in the City case. It seems far more likely to me she works for Ashley. She's still banging on about trying to make it happen, it's just desperate. The buyer (perhaps her buyer) has pulled the plug. She may be down the tubes for paert of the £17m. Ultimately she's a broker, so she may take 1-3% of the sale fee in this sale (thats a far amount of difference too perhaps between maing £3-£10m) so not an insubstantial some of money. It looked like she was onto a winner as well and would get a chance to run Newcastle and pay herself a mssive salary + bonuses and generally bleed the club while delivering a profit for the buyer. So fo a broker a really good opportunity. All of that is gone now. Thats why there is tears, 3 years of work all for absolutely nothing. Given the lies she's told, and how she's conducted herself through this, it couldn't have happened to a nicer person. Down the tubes for million and the promise of millions lost well as loads of time (and probably money) wasted.
I had a little look through their transfers. Despite Benitez relegating them, they have spent around £500m over the last 4-5 years. It's about £250m+ in the last couple. I mean it's hardly pocket change. Ashley has thrown everything at them, given them massive investment, and primarily Benitez has essentially wasted the money on what is a terrible squad. The real worry for them, is that Ashley now ha little interest, has lost around 30% (conservatively) of his wealth up to Covid this year in the last 2 years, and half his wealth over the last 5 or 6 years (in no small part down to bankrolling Newcastle). He is likely in fairly challenging financial situations, and will not be able to keep the tap on as mentioned above. Compared to recent years, they will need to be a lot more frugal. Not his fault, the fault of the managers he's had who've spent awfully. Not great for Bruce, in his first real summer but the mess Benitez made will have to be cleared up.
I suspect there were more than 1 factor that have caused the buyer to pull out. As widely stated here, I have my doubts the fund were available. It never got to the point where they ahd to show that. The global situation, impacting Saudi specifically won't have helped (the more senior guys in Saudi probably recognised they wouldn't be able to draw money out of Newcastle as they felt previously). As I've said before, Newcastle is an awful investment, terrible academy, awful training facilities, shoddy lob sided ground with awful facilities and no name recognition value as it's associated with sports direct, a club that has gone 65 years with no domestic trophy, a delusional fan base who show no appreciation for what owners can do, and a club that us regularly in the championship. That probably filtered in to their thinking as well.
If Saudi want to seriously invest in football (not what we saw with Newcastle, but a serious investment) they will probably look outside of the PL now. I don't see any big takeovers involving countries going through.
For the jawdies though, nee cans. I suppose a realisation of what they are and where they sit will now come true to them. As I said, they are years behind us. Years behind. Our worst season in 17 years, and their best in years and we still finish above them. That sort of sums up where both cubs are at. Even when we are monumentally bad, we're still comfortably ahead of where they asre at their best.
I'd be plunging a lot of money on them going down right about now if I were a punter.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
The comments on the petition ... Christ on a bike lol
110,277 people signed and won this petition
An independent investigation into the EPL takeover process
See below. However the government answer this very easily. "It is not the UK governments position to comment on private takeovers where the buyer elects not to go forward."
You want an inquiry you say? I'll give you an inquiry- the buyer elected not to move forward. Case closed. It really doesnt matter what their reasoning was and there is absolutely no imperative for them to need to make it public.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Come on Catcher, even you know your Iranian owner is a puppet (but I agree with the rest
Even if he is a puppet though. Usmanov isn't the Russian state, he's just a bloke from there. It's also worth knowing, what Russia do, and what Saudi do are leagues apart. Russia are the ones who are actually standing up to Saudi aggression, which is more than we can say with our traitorous and pitiful government.
Albertini78
Player Valuation: £10m
The Saudi's sent fake WTO press releases – saying piracy was sorted – to MPs and asked them to move the deal along?
Good God. The Geordie bells want to point the finger at them, not the Prem or anyone else
Good God. The Geordie bells want to point the finger at them, not the Prem or anyone else
Jim Hopper
Player Valuation: £40m
I suppose the down side to all of this has been the media coverage they’ve been receiving. It will only add to their over inflated egos that they’re some sort of massive club.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Where is this from and is this Mauriss?