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Newcastle Utd (and Viz)

roydo said:
Its just weird. Apparently she had no idea the deal was being pulled, found out yesterday, and the first thing she did was call Jim White, crying and shaking.
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I've seen your posts on her and I'm in full agreeent. I put a bit more about her on the previous page. I can't have her at all. She is giving this impression she represents the buyer, and ultimately it's the buyer who's pulled out here. Rather than crying and getting people to do petitionsor ask fro enquiries, or clarity, why doesn't she just ask the people she was representing why they have decided to pull out? There's no need to involve the fans, the PL, the government etc. It's on the buyers to explain why they have taken their decision.

From afar I do wonder what the buyers make of this, and ultimately what other potential buyers who may want to use her as a broker will think. It's all been conducted in the public eye, with her clearly leeking all manner of promises and statements that has made things much harder for them. Now after they pull out, having spent at least £17m on a deposit she's now carrying telling the world, very publicly it can still go ahead if they just lobby the PL. This on theevening the buyer pulls out, and issues a statement saying it's not a viable project. To me, it's highly unprofessional.

If she owes Newcastle fans anything it is an apology and an explanation into her own conduct and why the buyer pulled out.

I'll be quite frank, I think any serious buyer would run a million miles from her now as a broker. You want this stuff to be conducted privately, professionally and outside of the public glare. You don't want your broker becoming the story, and going on national radio giving all sorts of information away because she's lost her commission. I'd be thinking, if you want it to go ahead, why don't you speak to us directly, and privately rather than going through hacks like Jim White?
 
catcherintherye said:
I'd be thinking, if you want it to go ahead, why don't you speak to us directly, and privately rather than going through hacks like Jim White?
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Listening to him this morning, and in particular an exchange he had with Simon Jordan, its becoming apparent that it is slowly dawning on him that he had been played like a fiddle by Stavely.

I remember posting weeks ago when he was boasting of "my sources in the City" saying this deal was very close, was hogwash. Its obvious what, or who, that "source" was.
 
catcherintherye said:
Yes probably. I mean I think you have a few different layers to this story. I don't think Saudi top brass were even aware of this, and in truth the rung down probably started to get cold feet. What I think we can safely say, is they never had any intention of investing heavily, and most of the PR they/Staveley hasput out has been proven to be utter rubbish. They were briefing over the last few days it would go through. Complete blaggers. They're the ones who've pulled the jawdies pants down here.
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That ties in completely with what a friend who had some actual knowledge of this bid, told me from the off.

Staveley spent ages trying to convince the Saudis to come on board and they weren’t keen. But she’s apparently a very determined individual and carried on chipping away. She eventually convinced someone within PIF to join the consortium, but the idea it was ever a City type takeover was nads. As she’d convinced them that the investment level needed to make a huge difference to the clubs standing and thus value was relatively small.
 

roydo said:
Listening to him this morning, and in particular an exchange he had with Simon Jordan, its becoming apparent that it is slowly dawning on him that he had been played like a fiddle by Stavely.

I remember posting weeks ago when he was boasting of "my sources in the City" saying this deal was very close, was hogwash. Its obvious what, or who, that "source" was.
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In fairness, I had it on pretty good authority that Staveley was the real deal. Even after this, people have said to me she's very reputable. I'm afraid though, I just don't see it at all.

Her court trial was absolutely embaressing. She has traded for years off the basis of working for Monsour. It turns out she was working for the other side, and Monsour actually didnt even bother writing her a positive statement for her trial (which is very damming, it's like not writing reference).

To be honest, she comes across as a complete blabbermouth, who claims everything as her own, but those who know her, know she's compleetly untrustworthy. I've been quite clear on here, based on the picture thats been presented I do not think she was talking to top Saudi royalty, probably mid ranking guys and she has probably "worked" them as well, in terms of what guarantees can be given. (It's why I think there was such a problem finding the extra £50m hence she got another party involved.)

As for White, yes it's obvious where is source is. The fact that none of these people did any cross checking is astonishing I mean if a deal starts taking weeks, never mind months you know there are some serious hold ups. The easy pantomime villain is the PL but it goes much deeper than that. It wouldn't surprise me at all, if the PL were looking to push it forward to exchnage, they haveb't been able to get the rest of the funds and have bottled it.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
That ties in completely with what a friend who had some actual knowledge of this bid, told me from the off.

Staveley spent ages trying to convince the Saudis to come on board and they weren’t keen. But she’s apparently a very determined individual and carried on chipping away. She eventually convinced someone within PIF to join the consortium, but the idea it was ever a City type takeover was nads. As she’d convinced them that the investment level needed to make a huge difference to the clubs standing and thus value was relatively small.
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Spot on mate.

I don't mean to be blowing my own trumpet, you can see in my interactions on here, some of them months ago that I was very clear this would not be a City style takeover if it went through. That Staveley was not talking to top Saudi people it was much more mid ranking.

This was her fronting a consortium to run the company, but she doesn't have the funds to do so. She probably called in some favours amongt mid ranking officials, and blagged Reuben brothers on the basis of building contracts. It was doubtful they'd be willing to raise the stake, but as you say, no chance at all they would plunge City level of investment into the club.

My suspicion on whats happened, is that it's taken so long, she promised them it would be easy and ultimately what nominal commitment she had got as gone. Whether the mid rabking official has just thought to heck with it, I'll invest my money elsewhere, or his bosses have just said move on, find something better to go into I don't know, but essentially one of those.

She probably knows a distant cousin or something, who either has some money, or knows someone who has access to some of the PIF funds and is willing to dabble wth a couple of hundred million on the basis there's a return. She would promise him a return as she's running it. Asit went on, and she lost more credibility it was like, no way, I may have wated £20m but I'm not ploughing £250m further into this black hole.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
Her fee was the equity gift mate.
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Ah ok fair enough. I thought she might have got a bit more on top. Either way, it's a tidy gift, £30m quid or whatever and probably the agreement she could be on the board, pay herself massive bonuses etc. Thats what she's annoyed at. And she's embaressing herself publicly dragging the fans into all of it. The lemmings who fall for it are rather pathetic I have to say.
 


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