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ForeverBlue92 said:
America is a backwards country where kids can own assault rifles. To suggest capital punishment is the reason for more crime/murders over there is bonkers.

Your mind has sadly been poisoned by your political "betters".

Anyway back on topic - Saudi Regime are scumbags.
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I don't think they suggest capital punishment is the reason for more crime. They are pointing out that is does not act as a deterrent though (and there are studies showing that).

There is actually also studies that show that in the US for example, states with the death penalty actually have higher homicide rates. (However I would assume there is a correlation between the states that have the death penalty and the states with more lax gun laws/higher gun ownership etc).
 
Marius57 said:
I don't think they suggest capital punishment is the reason for more crime. They are pointing out that is does not act as a deterrent though (and there are studies showing that).

There is actually also studies that show that in the US for example, states with the death penalty actually have higher homicide rates. (However I would assume there is a correlation between the states that have the death penalty and the states with more lax gun laws/higher gun ownership etc).
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I dont believe the death penalty is a "deterrent" its more (or should be) a quick solution to remove those most evil from society who cannot be rehabilitated and freeing up more space in prisons for violent/sexual offenders.

The current issue in our society is we cant lock dangerous people up that long as the system is too clogged up - so you have a situation often where violent offenders are released prematurely back into society due to the sentencing guidelines which are influenced to an extent by prison capacity.

Studies show a good portion of these people go onto reoffend at some stage which means more needless victims in our society and studies show that statistically more victims = more offenders (the bullied often become the bully, the abuse victims often become the abuser) so you have a society where we have a mental health crisis, kids stabbing other kids to death daily and the solution apparently is to keep less people in prison for shorter durations !

I know people will say capital punishment its cruel but I disagree - death by firing squad is much more "humane" for those who cannot be rehabilitated than locking them up for 40+ years to rot in a lonely cell until they die (whilst being in constant fear of attacks/rapes from other inmates).
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
I dont believe the death penalty is a "deterrent" its more (or should be) a quick solution to remove those most evil from society who cannot be rehabilitated and freeing up more space in prisons for violent/sexual offenders.

The current issue in our society is we cant lock dangerous people up that long as the system is too clogged up - so you have a situation often where violent offenders are released prematurely back into society due to the sentencing guidelines which are influenced to an extent by prison capacity.

Studies show a good portion of these people go onto reoffend at some stage which means more needless victims in our society and studies show that statistically more victims = more offenders (the bullied often become the bully, the abuse victims often become the abuser) so you have a society where we have a mental health crisis, kids stabbing other kids to death daily and the solution apparently is to keep less people in prison for shorter durations !

I know people will say capital punishment its cruel but I disagree - death by firing squad is much more "humane" for those who cannot be rehabilitated than locking them up for 40+ years to rot a lonely cell until they die (whilst being in fear of attacks/rapes from other inmates).
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My friend, this spiritual turn has now become a criminological turn. Truly you are a renaissance man and no Geordie!
 

St James said:
And once again Godwin's law is proven.
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Replace it with Stalin, Mao, Nero or whoever you like if it pleases you. There’s a sizeable difference between accepting cultures and questioning immorality.

I have issues with the death penalty in general and will always question it, like I have issues with people get stoned for adultery et al.

Would you be okay with a culture accepting and legalising paedophilia, for example?
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
I dont believe the death penalty is a "deterrent" its more (or should be) a quick solution to remove those most evil from society who cannot be rehabilitated and freeing up more space in prisons for violent/sexual offenders.

The current issue in our society is we cant lock dangerous people up that long as the system is too clogged up - so you have a situation often where violent offenders are released prematurely back into society due to the sentencing guidelines which are influenced to an extent by prison capacity.

Studies show a good portion of these people go onto reoffend at some stage which means more needless victims in our society and studies show that statistically more victims = more offenders (the bullied often become the bully, the abuse victims often become the abuser) so you have a society where we have a mental health crisis, kids stabbing other kids to death daily and the solution apparently is to keep less people in prison for shorter durations !

I know people will say capital punishment its cruel but I disagree - death by firing squad is much more "humane" for those who cannot be rehabilitated than locking them up for 40+ years to rot in a lonely cell until they die (whilst being in constant fear of attacks/rapes from other inmates).
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Good lord
 

Yarrgh said:
Who knew that Newky Broon was so good for sports washing.
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Bad stuff that newky brown.
Disclaimer; I am a reformed character now - honest.
But back in the day I was, at various times - sometimes on the same evening - a loud drunk, a happy drunk, an amorous drunk and a sleepy drunk.
But, according to those who would know, only Newky Brown made me a narky drunk.

Could explain a lot about the horse punchers.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
Revenge is a healthy and normal emotion of being human.

I suggest it is you who tries to eradicate normal functions in humans and trying to turn us into emotionless robots in the capitalist 9-5 rat race that is a bigger problem in the world.

Although from my perspective I dont see capital punishment from a revenge perspective - less dangerous & evil people in the world = a good thing.
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Oh deary me.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
Revenge is a healthy and normal emotion of being human.

I suggest it is you who tries to eradicate normal functions in humans and trying to turn us into emotionless robots in the capitalist 9-5 rat race that is a bigger problem in the world.

Although from my perspective I dont see capital punishment from a revenge perspective - less dangerous & evil people in the world = a good thing.
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Do you think fans can be dangerous buddy?

And if yes. Can you inform the people of who?
 

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