Next Everton Manager

[StanleyParker]

It's just generally true that "it's every manager's job to win over the fans and you do that by getting results" and it's good that he recognises that.

It still stands that managing 7 clubs is not any proof of success at a level that I want Everton to have. Success for Everton is not and should not be "avoiding relegation". I've always appreciated SA's talents since the Bolton days, but there's a massive gulf between what he does (7 different styles or not) and has done as a manager (mainly firefighting) and what my ideals about Everton are. This is his biggest job* and Everton fans should expect the best he has ever done.

If he can have some kind of Okocha/Champions League qualifying Renaissance flashback, or rather, better than, which for the first time he potentially has the resources for, and for the first time he is at a club that has the serious historical presence to back such a campaign up, then great. But I never saw him as a match for Everton.

I always appreciated his abilities, even sometimes enjoyed him knocking the odd 'bigger team' down to size with tactics they didn't expect, but never in my life for a minute would I have associated him with the Everton managerial role. Not that I am seeing much out there that I really do associate with the Everton job right now.

Whatever Allardyce's "reputation" right or wrong, I will continue to write in this thread until the new manager proves to me there's no need for a new manager to replace him, and just avoiding relegation will not be enough for me.

*Unless you count the England job, which I don't.

 

[Chewbacca]

Too 10 and a good cup run will keep most quiet for now

 

[technojoe]

It's my choice mate.

Bad clean sheet an victory today eh!?

 

[Jonte]

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[StanleyParker]

Right. Been watching Allardyce for a while, and I think what has been going on confirms he is an interim appointment that was brought in to make sure relegation didn't become an issue. And that really is as much as he can really do. As I have said before this certainly is not the kind of football I want to see at Everton, but his appointment was always to give the club breathing room to think about who should be next.

I have to admit to a little schadenfreude at what has happened with Marco Silva. Obviously he should've just jumped at the opportunity, but he didn't, and now Watford have fired him.

Anyway, I have been thinking about it, and the kind of manager I would like to see at Everton. As I have already inferred, I don't really want to see negative football, and I'm not a Little Englander or anything, but I would prefer a manager who is from the British Isles or Ireland. And I am just feeling more and more strongly it should be Eddie Howe. I like his football, he is an Everton supporter himself, and he has a lot of potential as a manager. He seems like a good person as well. Yes he is still learning, but to bring Bournemouth up from where they were and keep them in the Premier League the way he has is quite an amazing achievement. Yes, defensively he probably needs to learn, but on the other hand, at Everton he would have more resources to answer problems he has had neither the funding nor the club cachet to answer at Bournemouth. I think at his stage, the club could afford to take a risk on a progressive and creative thinking young manager.

So that is my answer to the question this forum asked:

Eddie Howe should be the next manager at Everton.

 

[COYBL25]

Right. Been watching Allardyce for a while, and I think what has been going on confirms he is an interim appointment that was brought in to make sure relegation didn't become an issue. And that really is as much as he can really do. As I have said before this certainly is not the kind of football I want to see at Everton, but his appointment was always to give the club breathing room to think about who should be next.

I have to admit to a little schadenfreude at what has happened with Marco Silva. Obviously he should've just jumped at the opportunity, but he didn't, and now Watford have fired him.

Anyway, I have been thinking about it, and the kind of manager I would like to see at Everton. As I have already inferred, I don't really want to see negative football, and I'm not a Little Englander or anything, but I would prefer a manager who is from the British Isles or Ireland. And I am just feeling more and more strongly it should be Eddie Howe. I like his football, he is an Everton supporter himself, and he has a lot of potential as a manager. He seems like a good person as well. Yes he is still learning, but to bring Bournemouth up from where they were and keep them in the Premier League the way he has is quite an amazing achievement. Yes, defensively he probably needs to learn, but on the other hand, at Everton he would have more resources to answer problems he has had neither the funding nor the club cachet to answer at Bournemouth. I think at his stage, the club could afford to take a risk on a progressive and creative thinking young manager.

So that is my answer to the question this forum asked:

Eddie Howe should be the next manager at Everton.

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No mate, he`s a nice fella, but sadly he`s the English Martinez.

He never bends from his way of playing and eventually he`ll take them down and probably bring them back up again, which their fans know and accept.

He`s under no pressure at all to achieve anything other than hopefully their Premier league status.

He`s got one of the safest and most cushy jobs in football.

 

[StanleyParker]

No mate, he`s a nice fella, but sadly he`s the English Martinez.

He never bends from his way of playing and eventually he`ll take them down and probably bring them back up again, which their fans know and accept.

He`s under no pressure at all to achieve anything other than hopefully their Premier league status.

He`s got one of the safest and most cushy jobs in football.

Appreciate your point of view, but will have to agree to disagree. Cheers.

 

[leslad]

Right. Been watching Allardyce for a while, and I think what has been going on confirms he is an interim appointment that was brought in to make sure relegation didn't become an issue. And that really is as much as he can really do. As I have said before this certainly is not the kind of football I want to see at Everton, but his appointment was always to give the club breathing room to think about who should be next.

I have to admit to a little schadenfreude at what has happened with Marco Silva. Obviously he should've just jumped at the opportunity, but he didn't, and now Watford have fired him.

Anyway, I have been thinking about it, and the kind of manager I would like to see at Everton. As I have already inferred, I don't really want to see negative football, and I'm not a Little Englander or anything, but I would prefer a manager who is from the British Isles or Ireland. And I am just feeling more and more strongly it should be Eddie Howe. I like his football, he is an Everton supporter himself, and he has a lot of potential as a manager. He seems like a good person as well. Yes he is still learning, but to bring Bournemouth up from where they were and keep them in the Premier League the way he has is quite an amazing achievement. Yes, defensively he probably needs to learn, but on the other hand, at Everton he would have more resources to answer problems he has had neither the funding nor the club cachet to answer at Bournemouth. I think at his stage, the club could afford to take a risk on a progressive and creative thinking young manager.

So that is my answer to the question this forum asked:

Eddie Howe should be the next manager at Everton.

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I wouldn't object to be honest.

 

[thebluenosebolt]

This poll looks like an anyone rather than Allardyce ....very much like the anyone other than Moyes, Martinez. I am not prepared to vote for any other....at this moment. Its almost a cert than anyone we get would be an upgrade on what we have short term....Everyone loves a quick fix 4 game turn around. If we are being serious tho...we need a long term manager who will adapt and grow with this team....much like moyes did...with pienaar and felli. The new boss has to find a way to use the strengths we have rather than excusing himself by keep buying new expensive toys. I want a manager who can use what we currently have.. could you for one minute imagine Moyes with these problems ?? He would of wet his kilt with what we are throwing to the dogs....this cosa nostra needs a strong head and even stronger balls... i want a manager to work with what has been given.....if he cant manage a team with Rooney, Siggy, Tosun, Walcott, Davies, Pickford...to name but a few......he aint worth sheet

 

[blueblue]

I have it on good authority that as soon as the stadium go ahead is finalised then Usmanov will sell up at Arsenal and take over the remaining shares at Everton.
Sam will see out his contract until June 2019 and will then be replaced by Simeone whose contract will also be running down by then.

The voices in my head are rarely wrong.

 

[StanleyParker]

I have it on good authority that as soon as the stadium go ahead is finalised then Usmanov will sell up at Arsenal and take over the remaining shares at Everton.
Sam will see out his contract until June 2019 and will then be replaced by Simeone whose contract will also be running down by then.

The voices in my head are rarely wrong.

I seem to be also hearing at least some of the "voices in your head" also. The Simeone thing, the way there are question marks about Usmanov having more than one frying pan in the fire and that seeming to be a strong reason that, along with the stadium idea, would act as a push for him to make a choice, and Allardyce's contract, it all looks like it adds up nice and neat with a bow on it.

But we know football doesn't work like that. And either way, if that is true about Allardyce remaining in the seat until June 2019, then it will be until then, unless something changes quite radically in the way things are being done, I am not going to be very interested in watching the matches. So really I don't think this projection has any bearing on my suggestion whatsoever, in fact it might actually add weight to the argument for giving Howe a shot at it from June 2018.

 

[PeregrineT]

I think theres a decent chance we have expressed our interest to AVB to having him come in during the summer. We knew he absolutely wasnt going to come now, because of wanting to race the Dakkar, but hes free in the summer, has had premier league success, and like all managers in history is more fun to watch than BFS. Often where theres smoke theres fire, so after the links this past season to him things may come back around.

 

[StanleyParker]

I think theres a decent chance we have expressed our interest to AVB to having him come in during the summer. We knew he absolutely wasnt going to come now, because of wanting to race the Dakkar, but hes free in the summer, has had premier league success, and like all managers in history is more fun to watch than BFS. Often where theres smoke theres fire, so after the links this past season to him things may come back around.

With respect, AVB is a clown, and has not had any success in the Premier League, and should stick to racing and trying to live up to his Dad's legacy (without wishing actual harm on the fool of course). Yes I want more entertaining football, but by that I don't mean Icecapades.

 

[mightymoyes]

I think theres a decent chance we have expressed our interest to AVB to having him come in during the summer. We knew he absolutely wasnt going to come now, because of wanting to race the Dakkar, but hes free in the summer, has had premier league success, and like all managers in history is more fun to watch than BFS. Often where theres smoke theres fire, so after the links this past season to him things may come back around.

I think close to 100% of all spurs and Chelsea fans would disagree with all of that

 

[StanleyParker]

AVB. The ultimate laptop manager. Powerpoint.