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The league can only get sued into the hinterlands so many times before they want no part of this and will GLADLY let Gruden hang for it. And after settling with Kaepernick to avoid public disclosure of exactly this sort of stuff, they had to take a front-line stance on the social justice stuff.

Well they can't very well do that and then have a head coach lobbing skunks into the elevator, now can they?

The best alternative they had was to scapegoat Gruden. Doesn't cost the shield and we know that's all they truly care about. There's no loyalty among that pack of jackals.

If the league could barbecue Chuckie to save themselves some headache, they'll do it every time. The only question is really exactly what headache they've truly saved themselves? That's what I can't quite figure out. How does a public execution for something that had been swept under the rug to that point help them out?
 
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Kev The Rat said:
If the league could barbecue Chuckie to save themselves some headache, they'll do it every time. The only question is really exactly what headache they've truly saved themselves? That's what I can't quite figure out. How does a public execution for something that had been swept under the rug to that point help them out?
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Because few things actually stay "under the rug"

His behavior was reprehensible, whether stated among "friends" or in a locker room or on TV. He had to go.
 
Kev The Rat said:
The league can only get sued into the hinterlands so many times before they want no part of this and will GLADLY let Gruden hang for it. And after settling with Kaepernick to avoid public disclosure of exactly this sort of stuff, they had to take a front-line stance on the social justice stuff.

Well they can't very well do that and then have a head coach lobbing skunks into the elevator, now can they?

The best alternative they had was to scapegoat Gruden. Doesn't cost the shield and we know that's all they truly care about. There's no loyalty among that pack of jackals.

If the league could barbecue Chuckie to save themselves some headache, they'll do it every time. The only question is really exactly what headache they've truly saved themselves? That's what I can't quite figure out. How does a public execution for something that had been swept under the rug to that point help them out?
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Don't forget the NFLs willingness to let Dan Snyder's actions slide.
 
Chozz said:
AFC champions not looking so certain. Think everyone was just expecting the Chiefs to remain dominant this year. Their record could even be worse as they were lucky to pick up a win against the Browns on the opening day. Even the Eagles ran them close enough until late.

Bills obviously looking good, also the Chargers. Both Allen and Herbert are the real deal. Still hoping the Browns can be there near the end. They just seem to struggle when it comes to converting dominance. Defence is sound, but Mayfield is not showing much when it comes to final drives - they had 1.31 on the clock with the Chargers in trouble having missed the PAT. But for some reason they tried to run the ball continuously and gained only a handful of yards which took too much time. They were left with a hit and hope hail mary by the end, when a better QB would've found receivers on the touchline to move the chains and stop the clock. Refs were awful though, missed a number PI fouls.
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refs seems to get worse every year, they miss blatant stuff and then make bs calls
 


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There is no way he lasts 20 years in the locker room in the league being a racist
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Donald Sterling owned an NBA team for 30 years and was a racist...

I don't know how someone can verbally make a derogatory stereotypical caricature and not be a racist.

I have friends whom I would consider to be racist, we all are to degrees and I would consider them definitely bordering getting that label and they have black friends from their work. They wouldn't say they are racist but I've called them out on some stuff from time to time.

I would have even considered my grandfather racist to an extent and one of his best friends was a black man who owned a business next to his own. Used to have lunch together a few times a week.

Race is weird.
 
Kev The Rat said:
The league can only get sued into the hinterlands so many times before they want no part of this and will GLADLY let Gruden hang for it. And after settling with Kaepernick to avoid public disclosure of exactly this sort of stuff, they had to take a front-line stance on the social justice stuff.

Well they can't very well do that and then have a head coach lobbing skunks into the elevator, now can they?

The best alternative they had was to scapegoat Gruden. Doesn't cost the shield and we know that's all they truly care about. There's no loyalty among that pack of jackals.

If the league could barbecue Chuckie to save themselves some headache, they'll do it every time. The only question is really exactly what headache they've truly saved themselves? That's what I can't quite figure out. How does a public execution for something that had been swept under the rug to that point help them out?
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Clearly gruden has some enemies or pissed someone off for them to leak bits.

What they were speculating last night was they leaked a bit, gave the raiders the rest of the emails. When Sunday came and went and gruden faced no punishment of any sorts, schefter was saying people in the league office were not happy so they leaked more.

It's all a very bizarre situation.
 
I find the whole Gruden thing so hypocritical. He's fired for making a slur years ago. Meanwhile there are constantly players up and down the league that have been charged with more serious offences (domestic violence, drug abuse, rape, criminal damage, carrying firearms etc). And yet somehow after the dust settles on such incidents, the players are back in the game and all is forgiven.

Just to name a few:
Richard Shearman - arrested on a DUI and domestic violence. Crashed his car and tried to break into his wife's parents house...free agent then picked up by the Buccs

Marshon Lattimore - arrested on possession of a stolen gun

Rashard Higgins & Jedrick Willis - Drag racing in main city streets

Melvin Gordon - DUI

Antonio Brown - Assault and battery. Free agent the picked up by the Buccs.

Kareem Hunt and Tyreek Hill were both charged with domestic abuse / battery to women, the latter punching and choking his pregnant girlfriend...yet both did not serve any jail time and were picked up by the Browns and Chiefs in wake of the incidents.

These are just a few of the more notable names, there are hundreds of cases over the last 20 years. NFL turns a blind eye to this stuff all the time.

The show must go on eh?
 
Chozz said:
I find the whole Gruden thing so hypocritical. He's fired for making a slur years ago. Meanwhile there are constantly players up and down the league that have been charged with more serious offences (domestic violence, drug abuse, rape, criminal damage, carrying firearms etc). And yet somehow after the dust settles on such incidents, the players are back in the game and all is forgiven.

Just to name a few:
Richard Shearman - arrested on a DUI and domestic violence. Crashed his car and tried to break into his wife's parents house...free agent then picked up by the Buccs

Marshon Lattimore - arrested on possession of a stolen gun

Rashard Higgins & Jedrick Willis - Drag racing in main city streets

Melvin Gordon - DUI

Antonio Brown - Assault and battery. Free agent the picked up by the Buccs.

Kareem Hunt and Tyreek Hill were both charged with domestic abuse / battery to women, the latter punching and choking his pregnant girlfriend...yet both did not serve any jail time and were picked up by the Browns and Chiefs in wake of the incidents.

These are just a few of the more notable names, there are hundreds of cases over the last 20 years. NFL turns a blind eye to this stuff all the time.

The show must go on eh?
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I mean it's the free market and a reflection on our society sadly.

Those things will be forgiven, gruden will never be. And I'm not trying to make an excuse for those guys, I rarely hate guys cuz their off the field stuff because I don't know them. I wasn't there. I don't know the situation, everyone makes mistakes.... but I've always found tyreek hill just gross. His history with his baby's mother and the allegations where he hit his toddler also. All just so messed up

That said, as bad as they are... and I think you are mischaracterizing richard Sherman's situation. I don't believe he was charged with hitting his wife or anything but I could be wrong.

That said, I think people see the other things as bad decisions, people can be rehabilitated, change. A lot of these guys come from terrible neighborhoods and are still kids when they are drafted.

I'm not sure I believe you can rehabilitate or change a 60 year old racist. He is who he is. Hypocritical? Maybe a bit, guess it just doesn't bother me that a guy who has revealed himself to be of pretty poor character who has made upwards of 100 million bucks won't work again.

I mean you guys who are standing up for gruden, did you read excerpts?

He called Goodell not only a fa****, he called him "anti-football". What the hell does that even mean? The guys an idiot with messed up priorities.
 

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