no punishment for henry

[Topblue]

Was going to get embroiled but monts seems to have said it all ready basically FIFA have not done anything to try and peruade players to play the game fairly. What had he to lose if it is seen its a free out if not he is a national hero. I only hope it leads to goal line technology but i doubht it.

 

[teppic]

Was going to get embroiled but monts seems to have said it all ready basically FIFA have not done anything to try and peruade players to play the game fairly. What had he to lose if it is seen its a free out if not he is a national hero. I only hope it leads to goal line technology but i doubht it.

My sympathies mate. It's a tough way to lose out on a place at the world cup.

It's only going to really kick in once the tournament starts.

I still remember the pain of '94.

 

[monty]

Let's face it a World Cup without France wouldn't be much of a tournament, if I had the choice between the two from a strictly impartial standpoint, I would take them, with all due respect to the Irish, i'ts sort of like choosing between Bolivia and Argentina as a South American equivalent.

The result did stand, there was a lot of furore over it, but there's nothing nobody can do now, time to move on, there was a lot of talk comparing it to Maradona's 'picking of English wallets' in Mexico, but the latter was on a much grander scale, I don't think you can compare them, the Henry incident pales in comparison for me.

Having Platini and his minions overlooking the incident did not help one end, I might add, but he was a good player, saw him play live, I'll give him that.

The only diffences between both incidents is the names of the teams and the names of the culprits, I can safely presume that you, like me, are English. As I said earlier if the powers that be had taken action against Maradona then a precedent would have been set, but no they all saw what happened and ignored it. With Henry again they all saw what happened and again ignored it.........in my book they are complicit cheating. As Bruce rightly says we have video technology readily available, we can take men to the bloody moon but can't control a game of football fairly or justly................................a totally stupid and ludicrous state of affairs that FIFA still refuse to address.

I honestly hope France loss in the final to a similar incident.............I just wonder how long it would be before the [Poor language removed] hit the fan then................the games rulers are corrupt

 

[Neiler]

A disgrace really but expected little else, not one for conspirocey therioes but am in no doubht everything was fixed for the bigger teams in Europe to go through! He cheated i can deal with that, the goal was offside i can deal with that two but what Fifa did prior to the play off draw was the height of cheating. They should have baaned Henry for at least one game to send a message - that wouldbe justifiable and eqaute to the measure of his actions.

Personally think international football is tainted and has been for some time and this incident reinforces it for me, its geared toward the big television markets and populted countries in terms of advertiseing revenie and sponsership. The best teams dont always qualify the worse teams sometimes do - very often the best teams dont win compititons. International football is loaded to protect the big markets rather then footbaling nations - unjustly and is a bit of a farce really.

But hey Gillette will be made up! Eh Mr Henry and Blatter!

 

[DENNIS STEVENS]

You're quite right, Monty, in so far as every time this sort of outrageous cheating occurs the authorities are already at fault for failing to introduce appropriate measures to address it after the previous incident, or the one before that etc, etc - ad infinitum. Of course, that then leads us to a separate debate about the appropriate process to have in place - maybe they need to start some trials of different systems & see how they go.

 

[Topblue]

The only diffences between both incidents is the names of the teams and the names of the culprits, I can safely presume that you, like me, are English. As I said earlier if the powers that be had taken action against Maradona then a precedent would have been set, but no they all saw what happened and ignored it. With Henry again they all saw what happened and again ignored it.........in my book they are complicit cheating. As Bruce rightly says we have video technology readily available, we can take men to the bloody moon but can't control a game of football fairly or justly................................a totally stupid and ludicrous state of affairs that FIFA still refuse to address.

I honestly hope France loss in the final to a similar incident.............I just wonder how long it would be before the [Poor language removed] hit the fan then................the games rulers are corrupt

This, but in a much calmer tone ,maybe.

 

[Ara]

international an european footballs always been fixed.

Take Everton vs Villareal 2nd leg. Ferguson jumps for the ball, no one near him an onside, Ref gives a free kick to Villareal. Fantastic goal scored by Everton , dissallowed for no reason.

If it was the otherway round, Ireland be thrown out, the player be banned, an France would be put in.

 

[sotnas]

Fair play my royal back bottom, if you ask me.

Bruce,

I see your point, however, allow me to disagree on the basis that "there is cheating in every match".

Those cheating moments that can be proved beyond doubt should be punished.

We all know that criminals act every day. This fact doesn't prevent the authorities from judging and punishing those who are caught in the act or proved to be guilty of commiting the crime.

 

[DENNIS STEVENS]

Fair play my royal back bottom, if you ask me.

Bruce,

I see your point, however, allow me to disagree on the basis that "there is cheating in every match".

Those cheating moments that can be proved beyond doubt should be punished.

We all know that criminals act every day. This fact doesn't prevent the authorities from judging and punishing those who are caught in the act or proved to be guilty of commiting the crime.

Good analogy, but the authorities are able to act because there are processes in place to follow, this is where FIFA, etc have failed the game - there is no process for retrospective punishment where an incident has either not been dealt with by the referee or has been dealt with inadequately.

 

[sotnas]

Good analogy, but the authorities are able to act because there are processes in place to follow, this is where FIFA, etc have failed the game - there is no process for retrospective punishment where an incident has either not been dealt with by the referee or has been dealt with inadequately.

Mate, I see where you're getting. Still, it's absurd to concede the benefit of the doubt to the refs, or at least take them as the light inside the pitch, and then at the light of clear evidence of errors to look aside and whistle at the moon. To be mistaken is human and so is to correct the mistake.

They call on fair play and then they pass the message "it's ok to cheat". What amazes me the most is this line of thought followed by FIFA "the guy admitted so it must be ok not to punish him".

Even more hipocrital, remember that Cristiano Ronaldo wasn't awarded the best young footballer in the last WC because of the Fair Play thing. And now Henry puts France in a WC because he cheated and nothing happens?

 

[DENNIS STEVENS]

& will this latest incident prompt FIFA to introduce any measure's to allow players to be punished retrospectively, regardless of the referee's actions, or lack of them? Not a chance!
So the next time something particularly outrageous happens they'll not be able to take action because there's no mechanism for doing so. With the stakes so high, players are encouraged to take the risk.