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Looks like Obama will beat Hillary to the Democrat's nomination for the presidential candidate. He seems okay to me, although I'm not particularly well versed in U.S. politics. Hillary would have done me as well. She's a bit of slippery toad but I bet she's competent. I even like the Republican candidate, McCain, although I believe that he's just too old to be running for president.

Thoughts ..
 
Very excited for Obama personally, possible the smartest person we've had run for the office in forever (and he has sound political acumen as well).

Hilary was just a different face on the same-old same-old imo and I am glad that she didn't get the nomination.

McCain scares me personally with his Bomb-bomb-bomb... bomb-bomb Iran song.

Devoid from most of primaries was real talk on policy but I have faith that Obama 'get's it' and is just playying his cards close to his vest for now.

Hilary's offer of being a running mate is laughable, at best.
 
Like I said, I'm not knowledgeable about U.S. politics, but I've read some reasonable things about McCain, including him being not afraid to sometimes go against traditional Republican doctrine. Maybe I'm wrong but surely he'd be an improvement on Bush?
 
Lets face it, it's been a popularity contest thus far. All the protectionist twaddle both Obama and Clinton have been blurting out throughout the campaign is positively scary. Unless they've been borrowing policies from Chavez.
 

Barack Obama is easily the most inexperienced politician running for President in our nation's history.

One term in the Senate.

That's it.

What has he done in that one term? Absolutely nothing.

Obamamania is here to stay but he's gonna get killed in the general election. Why? Two things:

1) Our country has never elected a northern liberal as President and Obama is as liberal as they come. Kerry, Mondale, Dukakis...you're gonna add Obama to that list in a few mos.

2) Obama, like his Democratic predesessors has virtually no chance of carrying the southern states and to win the election, he's gonna have to win several of them. He won't.

I'm not a big fan of McCain but in this day and time, we need someone with experience. I wouldn't have wanted Clinton to be sure but had she won the nomination and beaten McCain, I'd have at least felt a bit more comfortable with Hillary on national security issues.

Obama doesn't have a clue and has run his entire campaign on feel good talking points.

I'm looking very much forward to Obama vs. McCain in the nationally televised debates. Talking points won't help either candidate there and unfortunately for Obama, that's been his entire campaign to date..."Hope, Change, etc...".

I won't even go in to the many, many gaffes he's committed during this campaign as they're all fairly well publicized which is a shocker considering he's the darling of the MSM. But his political inexperience is just mindboggling.

Here's a good commentary (DISCLAIMER: Written by blogger who's the proprietor of a website called "Right Wing News.") on why Obama's a weaker candidate than many think.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/...obama_is_a_weaker_candidate_than_people_think




(ANOTHER DISCLAIMER: TX Bill is a charter member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy and has voted Republican his entire life. He's also older and knows better. This post is in no way an endorsement of John McCain.)
 
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Like I said, I'm not knowledgeable about U.S. politics, but I've read some reasonable things about McCain, including him being not afraid to sometimes go against traditional Republican doctrine. Maybe I'm wrong but surely he'd be an improvement on Bush?
I think it would be quite a feat to find anyone who isn't.
 
I think it would be quite a feat to find anyone who isn't.

Actually it would be in this day and time.

Bush certainly wasn't perfect and made his mistakes but wasn't near as bad as the media portrayed him.

Time will tell how history judges his Presidency.

I can tell you this much. No matter what you think of him, he'll never be known as the Worst President Ever.

Good ole Jimmah has that one locked up.
 
Barack Obama is easily the most inexperienced politician running for President in our nation's history.

One term in the Senate.

That's it.

What has he done in that one term? Absolutely nothing.

Obamamania is here to stay but he's gonna get killed in the general election. Why? Two things:

1) Our country has never elected a northern liberal as President and Obama is as liberal as they come. Kerry, Mondale, Dukakis...you're gonna add Obama to that list in a few mos.

2) Obama, like his Democratic predesessors has virtually no chance of carrying the southern states and to win the election, he's gonna have to win several of them. He won't.

I'm not a big fan of McCain but in this day and time, we need someone with experience. I wouldn't have wanted Clinton to be sure but had she won the nomination and beaten McCain, I'd have at least felt a bit more comfortable with Hillary on national security issues.

Obama doesn't have a clue and has run his entire campaign on feel good talking points.

I'm looking very much forward to Obama vs. McCain in the nationally televised debates. Talking points won't help either candidate there and unfortunately for Obama, that's been his entire campaign to date..."Hope, Change, etc...".

I won't even go in to the many, many gaffes he's committed during this campaign as they're all fairly well publicized which is a shocker considering he's the darling of the MSM. But his political inexperience is just mindboggling.

Here's a good commentary (DISCLAIMER: Written by blogger who's the proprietor of a website called "Right Wing News.") on why Obama's a weaker candidate than many think.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/...obama_is_a_weaker_candidate_than_people_think




(ANOTHER DISCLAIMER: TX Bill is a charter member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy and has voted Republican his entire life. He's also older and knows better. This post is in no way an endorsement of John McCain.)
Although I follow all presidential elections I confess to not knowing a lot about the candidates,but after reading your post you have me worried as I have been under the impression he was a competent politician. the last thing the world needs now is a President who is not up to the job.
 
Although I follow all presidential elections I confess to not knowing a lot about the candidates,but after reading your post you have me worried as I have been under the impression he was a competent politician. the last thing the world needs now is a President who is not up to the job.

He made a keynote speech at the last Democratic Convention and was hailed as the new darling of the Democratic Party. Unfortunately, everyone overlooked, intentionally or otherwise, his lack of qualifications. And I do mean "lack."

You know it's bad when TX Bill, hardcore right winger, admits that he'd rather have Hillary than Obama.

No President is perfect as they all have their flaws, Republican and Democrat alike. For me, ideology is important. Where they stand on issues is important. But at the end of the day, experience is a factor that cannot be overlooked. Whether you like John McCain or not, his experience overshadows Obama's experience in leaps and bounds. I think Hillary could have beaten McCain in a general election. I really do. Hillary, love her or hate her, has quite a bit of political experience. But I think Obama's gonna get trounced in the general election. This image he's created for himself is gonna come crashing down around him as it should.

(In the interest of full disclosure, McCain was one of my least desired candidates on the Republican side for a variety of issues. I leaned more towards Romney, Huckabee, and Thompson. I say leaned toward because by the time the primaries got to TX, McCain had sewn up the nomination.)

Obama needs to serve a few terms in the Senate and then run. Get some more experience under his belt in a variety of political issues. I'm not saying he'll be elected because there's that issue of extreme liberalism in him again but at least he'd be a more palatable candidate from an experience point of view. But for him to run right now based on his political resume is laughable at best.

Like I said before: He's. Done. Nothing.
 
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He made a keynote speech at the last Democratic Convention and was hailed as the new darling of the Democratic Party. Unfortunately, everyone overlooked, intentionally or otherwise, his lack of qualifications. And I do mean "lack."

You know it's bad when TX Bill, hardcore right winger, admits that he'd rather have Hillary than Obama.

No President is perfect as they all have their flaws, Republican and Democrat alike. For me, ideology is important. Where they stand on issues is important. But at the end of the day, experience is a factor that cannot be overlooked. Whether you like John McCain or not, his experience overshadows Obama's experience in leaps and bounds. I think Hillary could have beaten McCain in a general election. I really do. Hillary, love her or hate her, has quite a bit of political experience. But I think Obama's gonna get trounced in the general election. This image he's created for himself is gonna come crashing down around him as it should.

(In the interest of full disclosure, McCain was one of my least desired candidates on the Republican side for a variety of issues. I leaned more towards Romney, Huckabee, and Thompson. I say leaned toward because by the time the primaries got to TX, McCain had sewn up the nomination.)

Obama needs to serve a few terms in the Senate and then run. Get some more experience under his belt in a variety of political issues. I'm not saying he'll be elected because there's that issue of extreme liberalism in him again but at least he'd be a more palatable candidate from an experience point of view. But for him to run right now based on his political resume is laughable at best.

Like I said before: He's. Done. Nothing.
Thank Bill always happy to learn something new over here the papers I read seem to want him as president but as with most thing when there is distance facts can get distorted
 
I knew that Obama was considered inexperienced and that much of the campaign had been about feel good politics. But inexperience is not necessarily a bad thing in politics. God only knows how the Americans run their affairs, but in the UK there is a vast network of advisors paid to help run things. The PM here also has his cabinet, each member being responsible for a particular area. The boss, so to speak, is a rubber stamp, unless the boss happens to be power crazy. I presume with you guys that the civil service is mostly neutral and would, therefore, advise and help the president regardless of their own political beliefs.

Anyway, as a liberal I quite admire Obama, but whether that translates to him having the gumption to be a capable president, I'm unsure.

I don't mind McCain at all, at least not that which I've seen or read. I've got a big worry that he's just too damned old to stand. At his age, it is entirely possible that he'll face the possibility of serious health problems during his presidency. We don't want the most powerful country in the world to have a sick president or, worse, in need of a replacement during mid-term.

I think it's a shame that the southern states have a problem with Obama. Is this an issue to do with race, Bill? If so, then that's a sad, sad state of affairs.

Anyway, it's up to you guys and I'm sure that this time you'll get the right candidate into the White House. Thank goodness it won't be another Bush! (y)
 
I knew that Obama was considered inexperienced and that much of the campaign had been about feel good politics. But inexperience is not necessarily a bad thing in politics. God only knows how the Americans run their affairs, but in the UK there is a vast network of advisors paid to help run things. The PM here also has his cabinet, each member being responsible for a particular area. The boss, so to speak, is a rubber stamp, unless the boss happens to be power crazy. I presume with you guys that the civil service is mostly neutral and would, therefore, advise and help the president regardless of their own political beliefs.

Anyway, as a liberal I quite admire Obama, but whether that translates to him having the gumption to be a capable president, I'm unsure.

I don't mind McCain at all, at least not that which I've seen or read. I've got a big worry that he's just too damned old to stand. At his age, it is entirely possible that he'll face the possibility of serious health problems during his presidency. We don't want the most powerful country in the world to have a sick president or, worse, in need of a replacement during mid-term.

I think it's a shame that the southern states have a problem with Obama. Is this an issue to do with race, Bill? If so, then that's a sad, sad state of affairs.

Anyway, it's up to you guys and I'm sure that this time you'll get the right candidate into the White House. Thank goodness it won't be another Bush! (y)

No, his predesessors, who were white didn't fair well in the south either.

The problem with Obama is that he'll handpick those who he'd want to serve in his administration.

If is campaign is any indication of what type of Presidency he'll have, then he won't be picking cabinet members with much experience either.

If you're a liberal and left wing ideas and ideology are your thing, then Obama's certainly your type of candidate and would represent a fair amount of your beliefs.
 
I'm not in Obama's camp either and he literally scares me to death. No experience and his hair brained schemes and ties to the underworld in Chicago hasn't changed my mind. Everyone just wants change at the moment and believe me they are going to get what they want with a vengance.

Wall street absolutely hates Obama & Hillary the end of capitalism as we know it is nigh so says Kudlow. Get ready along with high gas prices your taxes will skyrocket in 2010.
 
No, his predesessors, who were white didn't fair well in the south either.

The problem with Obama is that he'll handpick those who he'd want to serve in his administration.

If is campaign is any indication of what type of Presidency he'll have, then he won't be picking cabinet members with much experience either.

If you're a liberal and left wing ideas and ideology are your thing, then Obama's certainly your type of candidate and would represent a fair amount of your beliefs.

I like to think liberal and fair-minded. I have no problems with right-wing ideas if they're good and better than those currently traded on the left. I think one problem with liberalism in Europe, is that it has become entrenched in its own little world and failed to accept that not all is well with left-wing ideology (see Cohen's book, What's Left: How Liberals Lost There Way) If Obama is one of those that is unable to see the good that also exists on the right, then I'm probably not going to be a fan. Similarly, if he surrounds himself solely with admirers, I won't be too impressed either. But at this point, we don't know for sure how things will pan out if he gets the hot seat. So far now I'm quietly in favour of his campaign for president.
 

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