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Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Maybe we were smart enough not to buy him in the first place?
Disgruntledgoat
Player Valuation: £50m
He was utter gash at Anderlecht...
Apparently quite good now.
What's with all these 6-year asset trapping deals at the minute like.
Carlito
Player Valuation: £40m
He was a class act in those 2017/18 Europa group games, but I also thought that he looked a bit heavy and seemed to tire early. Maybe it's got something to do with his knee issues.
The Missing Lineker
Player Valuation: £1m
Knee is shot by all accounts, joint has a short life expectancy. That’s why no one of note will touch him now.
Carlito
Player Valuation: £40m
I'm surprised that Klopp was so interested. He doesn't look at all equipped for Gegenfoul.
The Missing Lineker
Player Valuation: £1m
No he isn’t. Shame really. He’s still a very handy player and would have loved him here at that price, but he wouldn’t fit into our high intensity style either
What are the odds on that? - Wolves fake news shows how easily truth is overlooked - Sport Witness
Despite a wave of nonsense often carrying transfer rumours, sometimes something stands out. For how blatant it is, for how easy it is to disprove, for how much impact it has. Football supporters are fed false information, sometimes downright lies, and are increasingly encouraged to bet on an...
Despite a wave of nonsense often carrying transfer rumours, sometimes something stands out. For how blatant it is, for how easy it is to disprove, for how much impact it has.
Football supporters are fed false information, sometimes downright lies, and are increasingly encouraged to bet on an outcome. ‘Next manager’ markets have been a cause of eyebrow raising for some years, and transfer markets have recently come more into it.
A vaguely reasonable transfer rumour will appear… and then all hell will break loose.
That was the case with Diego Costa recently. He’s been involved with Jorge Mendes, he’s a native Portuguese speaker… so if he leaves Atletico Madrid then a reasonable destination is Wolves, right?
Maybe it is, maybe it could happen, yet what happened last week has no basis in reality.
First, a Twitter account called Football Daily (with over 70k followers) posted a fake quote from Jorge Mendes. As you can see below, they gave a clear idea of Wolves as a destination.
So what happens then? Betting markets are impacted.
Football Index begins to move. That’s basically a stock-market of footballers, you can trade players and make real money.
Costa’s value went through the roof because he was being linked with a return to the Premier League. Anyone with money invested in the player will have turned a quick profit.
The reaction wasn’t quite enough, perhaps.
So Football Daily then posted a tweet which stated Globo Esporte, one of Brazil’s major sport media outlets, had claimed Costa and Wolves were in agreement on personal terms.
They presented it with the Atletico player half in a Wolves kit. Some work went into this.
Then it became massive, as was the intention.
It was everywhere, all over the world sport media. The odds on Costa moving to Wolves ended up as short as 1/4, people were clearly putting money on it.
Yet it was fake. At Sport Witness we were aware at this stage that Globo Esporte hadn’t claimed anything of the sort.
We said so, as clearly as possible.
But, still, it flew around the world, and the bets were piling up. People were putting actual money on an outcome based on a downright lie.
So we contacted Football Daily, to suggest it was time to come clean. Nothing in response.
At this point it was a buzz story, money was being placed and stories were even being born from the odds: Wolves ‘favourites’ to sign Costa / Costa 91% likely to join Wolves.
Despite knowing the Globo Esporte claims were lies, we also contacted them. It was partly their reputation on the line, through no fault of their own.
Normally, Globo wouldn’t comment, but that we have someone in Brazil, with connections at the huge media house, helped.
For clarity, this was their denial: ‘Globo Esporte confirms that we did not give this information’
Next, we contacted some of those benefitting and told them the story, that it’s fake, that their customers are being encouraged to part with money based on lies. One major odds aggregator told us ‘we won’t be commenting officially on the story mate’ and gave no reply to our follow up question of it being in the interest of their customers.
They continued running the market as normal.
Following on from that, we went directly to the major betting company whose odds had shortened most dramatically. At 1/4, it doesn’t take too much assumption to believe they’d taken money on this market.
Thirteen hours later they replied: ‘Hi, sorry for the late response, I just wanted to check with our traders. They have told me we have never offered odds on Diego Costa for *********. Was it ********* you saw the odds on?’
(Don’t try to work out the ***, it’s random)
When they were informed it was indeed their company and we’d taken screenshots to prove as much, there was no further reply.
All the while, Football Daily kept their posts up despite knowing they were pushing lies.
After the story peaked, and the interest faded, the tweets were deleted. We again asked for comment, and had zero success.
So what of it? Well, football rumours are often false, but there’s a huge difference between that and making such an effort to build up a downright lie.
If it were a prank, one would think the reaction to the betting market would be enough to produce an admission, to avoid followers losing money. Despite our request for them to take that way out, they left it there until the story had died.
Bet on whatever you like (we have an indirect deal with several companies), but be aware of downright and seemingly purposeful lies.
Otherwise, you’re being played. And there doesn’t seem to be any regularity body who cares.
And if you want to know if a world news source has said something they’ve been claimed to say… well that’s what we’re here for.
49ers
Player Valuation: £20m
question for Everton fans, I know Zaha at £80-100m will not happen but what if Moshiri/USM did it as a big "we are getting into the champions league" mission statement.
Zaha comes maybe bags 8/9 goals about the same in assists. He doesn't blow the world away but is a crucial cog in edging Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd out of the way whether by gd or 1 pt.
Would he have been worth it at that price then, is being thought of as serious players as important as being there already.
Still think I'd go for Richardson's team mate in Brazil, the name fits like a glove,(think Arsene back in 96 ) kid's learning English, he's desperate to prove he's good enough for Europe and I'm sure his mate can help him settle.
Zaha comes maybe bags 8/9 goals about the same in assists. He doesn't blow the world away but is a crucial cog in edging Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd out of the way whether by gd or 1 pt.
Would he have been worth it at that price then, is being thought of as serious players as important as being there already.
Still think I'd go for Richardson's team mate in Brazil, the name fits like a glove,(think Arsene back in 96 ) kid's learning English, he's desperate to prove he's good enough for Europe and I'm sure his mate can help him settle.
Westend Blue
Player Valuation: £15m
He’s a good player and worth 80odd to palace. Personally I wouldn’t be comfortable paying more than about 40-55 ish.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
You are really going for it this summer. Dare i say it, but potential dark horses.
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
i just don't think he is good enough to get us into the champions league, his 8/9 goals and assists wouldn't do that imo.
We could buy Kean and Malcolm combined for the same sort of fee and they could add an extra 30 goals between them to our team and that'd be more of a statement. I dunno, i just really don't think he's good enough for a top 7 side.
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