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2017/18 Oumar Niasse

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OK so nobody can agree if it's a dive or not.
most importantly though, it seems like it's totally inconsistent, that other teams are exempt from this punishment, and that corrupt FA are being influenced by the fake news media like MOTD pundits, whom I normally like.
And worst still, my post looks like a trump tweet..Arrrgh. What are you doing to me Everton?
Which usually means it isn't as clear cut as the media want it to be. We are being used as an example. We are the one club that happens to be in the national spotlight and totally crap, so it makes sense to use us as a statement. Niasse is also irrelevant to anyone outside of this club. Had it been an English player of note it wouldn't have been debated so harshly.
 
I don't buy into conspiracy theories that everyone's against us either. That's just victim mentality which is a very dangerous place to go. These things tend to even themselves out over time. At the moment we can consider ourselves the beneficiary of a refereeing decision that helped us get a point at the weekend. Other calls will go for and against us.

You know this is an Everton chat site, right?
 
This is the first time the panel have indeed agreed that the scenario is in fact a dive and therefore will be banned, Everton have a chance to appeal.

The other scenarios mentioned were not deemed to be dives by this panel.

Have to say, that richarlison 'dive' was 100x less of a dive and involved much more contact that Niasse scenario.

Do agree it's not the best way to deal with things though
Didn't realise a decision had already been made. Poor decision in my view.

And I have to disagree with your take on things mate. The Richarlison/Niasse cases are very different. The referee from Saturday has apparently said he gave the penalty for a trip (or coming together of feet/legs) which video evidence shows didn't happen. But there was a separate upper bodily contact that did take place which caused Niasse to go to ground. No penalty but no dive either. For me there is more bodily contact in the Niasse case. I've looked at the Richarlison one again and there is absolute minimal contact of any, plus it looks as though he was already on the way down to me before the tackle came in.

This just stinks of the FA covering up a poor refereeing decision to me.
 
His was so much more of a foul though, way less blatant than Niasse doing the starfish
It was all self-initiated contact. It was just a desperate attempt to get a late equaliser with time running out and gave him some sort of flimsy half-truth that he may just have been the victim if you were really desperate to believe him and as gullible as it's possible to be.
 

Didn't realise a decision had already been made. Poor decision in my view.

And I have to disagree with your take on things mate. The Richarlison/Niasse cases are very different. The referee from Saturday has apparently said he gave the penalty for a trip (or coming together of feet/legs) which video evidence shows didn't happen. But there was a separate upper bodily contact that did take place which caused Niasse to go to ground. No penalty but no dive either. For me there is more bodily contact in the Niasse case. I've looked at the Richarlison one again and there is absolute minimal contact of any, plus it looks as though he was already on the way down to me before the tackle came in.

This just stinks of the FA covering up a poor refereeing decision to me.
One of them where you realise these sorts of decisions and permanently going to split opinion even if video refereeing came into play, as even amongst ourselves we can find reasoning to justify, or not, certain decisions.

It would help if the rules were clearly defined.
 
Sharpening my twitter pencil for next weekend. Any player who dives during a game is gonna get ,GIF'S. funny videos ,the full 9yds. i may be taking this a bit personally ?
 

need to change the rules, if you retrospectively ban someone it doesn't benefit the team who have had to suffer as a result of it

the punishment should be that the player should be banned from playing in the next 2-3 matches against that specific club

if he transfers to a different team during a transfer window then the ban would still apply at his new club
 
Of course it was a dive. It worries me that so many of our fans are saying it wasn't and throwing the old "contact was made" chestnut in there.

I am all for him getting punished for it IF the same rules are applied to everybody else which of course will not be the case.
Think we need to clearly define what simulation is. Too me it's when a player goes to ground without any contact, and appeals. At worst, I would say that Niasse possibly instigated contact by running into the defender. The game is full of such incidents, so if Niasse is penalised retrospectively for this then everybody should be. I'd accept that.

The other thing is that the punishment should be consistent. If it's a yellow card on the pitch then retrospective punishment should be the same. Either that or make simulation a sending off offence.
 

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