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2017/18 Oumar Niasse

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toffeeblue9 said:
Believe what you like pal, Niasse is garbage - we've seen enough to know. Successive Everton managers have realised how bad he is, and they see more of him against actual senior players, than watching him against a team of kids

One day the story about his signature will come out
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Not being good enough for our first team (which I don't think he is) doesn't make him garbage either.

He has played against senior players his whole career and scored goals in the Europa League. He is obviously a bit raw and unorthodox but someone will take a chance on him and he will probably do alright.

He was perfectly fine at Hull so showed he can at least do a job somewhere in the top flight.
 

Papa Shango said:
He can play anywhere, he is THAT good.

From what I have read he is somewhat of a Mirallas type. Can play wide, can play up front at a push and can even play as a wing back.

What a man.
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Or a jack of all trades master of none - like Niessie perhaps?
I hope he is great we need a great forward pacy and one who can score;)
 
Papa Shango said:
Brilliant. Just brilliant.

I have already told you NUMEROUS times why he only played 30 games in 6 years and why he is a "sicknote" as you put it.

His knee was destroyed, this is why he only played a handful of games, what else needs explaining to you? It is quite the valid excuse.

I know he has not proven anything hence we he was taken on what was effectively a long term trial to see if we could fix his battered knee and get him playing to the point where he may be able to show the talent that he was touted as having before his injury.

To be honest this is a complete waste of time. You don't care about the reasons behind it, you just claim a player you have never seen is "league one standard" and cant grasp the fact that clubs often take on little projects like this to see if they can get a player out of it. It is not a signing that should be judged in any way shape or form. It didn't work out and we lost nothing as the blokes knee is obviously broken beyond repair.
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Ok it's looks like you want to take my words out of context by not quoting the whole thing. I said I did not need to see him play to know he was tosh because he played 30 games in 6 full seasons. 6 damn full seasons. About 230 league games there. What do you expect?

The so-called trial was meaningless and took resources to take care of a sicknote who done absolutely nothing throughout his career. It was just damn weird to hand out such deal although that was not involved in a fee. At the end of the day, who would be the obvious fool, handing a deal to some no mark for playing 30 games in 6 full seasons? No club would you

Get a player out of a sicknote lol? You said his knee was destroyed. You cannot re-write the history. He had shown his level at Doncaster while going on loan. It did not work out. That was just one of the abysmal deal of RM. And look at the level he is playing now.
 

hktoffee said:
Ok it's looks like you want to take my words out of context by not quoting the whole thing. I said I did not need to see him play to know he was tosh because he played 30 games in 6 full seasons. 6 damn full seasons. About 230 league games there. What do you expect?

The so-called trial was meaningless and took resources to take care of a sicknote who done absolutely nothing throughout his career. It was just damn weird to hand out such deal although that was not involved in a fee. At the end of the day, who would be the obvious fool, handing a deal to some no mark for playing 30 games in 6 full seasons? No club would you

Get a player out of a sicknote lol? You said his knee was destroyed. You cannot re-write the history. He had shown his level at Doncaster while going on loan. It did not work out. That was just one of the abysmal deal of RM. And look at the level he is playing now.
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He could not play because he was LACKING A KNEE.

How much more clear can I make this?

He went to Doncaster to get some match fitness, he could not even withstand that, not because of any lack of ability but because his knee was not up to it.

It's not an abysmal deal at all because it meant NOTHING in the grand scheme of things. Absolute zero. The was no risk and the small chance of a big reward.

You hatred of Martinez on this one is totally messing your thought process. If we were talking about Alcaraz or something (Another sick note but one who was brought in for the first team not a bloke brought in to gain some fitness on a trial) then I could understand where you are coming from. Your opinion on this one though is just really really weird.
 
I very much doubt it will happen , but at the moment Niasse is the only experienced centre forward of his type at the club.

A limited footballer, certainly, but we saw that he certainly made an impact for Hull last season, it is a pity he won't be even considered.
 
Papa Shango said:
Not being good enough for our first team (which I don't think he is) doesn't make him garbage either.

He has played against senior players his whole career and scored goals in the Europa League. He is obviously a bit raw and unorthodox but someone will take a chance on him and he will probably do alright.

He was perfectly fine at Hull so showed he can at least do a job somewhere in the top flight.
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When you say "perfectly fine", I saw almost every minute he played for Hull (call it morbid fascination) and he was as laughably bad at times as he was for us

I will grant you that his v unorthodox style made him effective (occasionally), but there are some basics that I still find it incredible he has never mastered
 

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