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Our next manager?

Who out of this lot?

  • Graham Potter

    Votes: 213 28.9%
  • Thomas Frank

    Votes: 80 10.9%
  • Leighton Baines

    Votes: 37 5.0%
  • Vincent Kompany

    Votes: 13 1.8%
  • Steven Schumacher

    Votes: 53 7.2%
  • Wayne Rooney

    Votes: 46 6.3%
  • Marcelo Bielsa

    Votes: 38 5.2%
  • Christophe Galtier

    Votes: 39 5.3%
  • Pellegrino Matarazzo

    Votes: 6 0.8%
  • Ernesto Valverde

    Votes: 3 0.4%
  • Cheese on scotch egg

    Votes: 208 28.3%

  • Total voters
    736
I was open to considering Moyes over the weekend, and in the aftermath of Saturday.

On reflection, whilst he would be far from the worst candidate, we have to look forward and not back.

There will always be some reason to look to the familiar, let's get safe, let's get to the new stadium, let's have the new owner in. Then we make change.

Despite limited options, we should still look to be ambitious and progressive. We can do that without being reckless.

Moyes was exactly what we needed in 2002. He is not today.
 
So many out of work managers, take your pick Kev the Red.

Sarri
Kovac
Conseciao
Schmidt
Terzic
Pioli
Mazarri
Xavi
Tuchel
Low
Potter
never mind the options in work that would jump at the chance to join Everton, probably for less than the £6 million pa Dyche is “earning” 🤣🤣🤣


Nah, let’s keep this ginger skid mark or get Dour Davey back, sound.


Which ones would actually come here. Not a chance the likes of Tuchel or Xavi come to Everton
 
This is a very good option.
Can't see Corberan downing tools with West Brom to leave. He got a new Owner now working alongside him after 18 months of the worry of having no club to run. Maybe if Everton's ownership was smoother it might be a consideration also he has a backroom staff of around 10 so he would insist on bringing those along with him like Bielsa did which would be extremely costly.
 
The problem with this club is people are still calling for Moyes to come back instead of looking for new manager.

I think there might be some bigger problems than that, but it’s certainly not helping.

Disagree. By the way, calling for Moyes, he would be a new manager.

I think we need a manager to bridge the gap between Dyche and a longer term younger manager. Someone that can help coach the players but also can cope with the off field issues at the club. I'm not saying Dyche hasn't done well with the off field issues he's done remarkably well, but the football is where we're at and the results speak for themselves. Dyche is also starting to blame others and make excuses. He's running out of ideas. If we stick with him we might survive like last season who knows? 🤷‍♂️ He certainly hasn't progressed that's for sure. I'm not sure any other manager will either cope or put up with the uncertainty at the club. I'd rather have the next 20 months or longer under Moyes.
 

Which ones would actually come here. Not a chance the likes of Tuchel or Xavi come to Everton
Why not? If you don’t ask you don’t get. £6mill a year might have something to do with them coming.

Nah, screw it, Let’s just get moyes, allardyce or happy arry Redknapp, Tony pulis or maybe even Neil Warnock in eh? Great positive forward thinking managers like that.
 
I think one of several issues with asking Moyes back would be the issue of Moyes - control freak re everything first team, and working under Thelwell, who is three years into a strategic plan (Or as strategic as it can be with a change of board, changes of priorities, and changes of manager) How would that combination dove-tail, or would it turn into a Brands vs Ancelotti, or Brands vs FSW type of relationship?

How would Moyes deal with DCL? Even the dreamboat scenario that Moyes comes in, freshens up the first XI, makes better subs and gets better results, is going to cost the club money which it can ill afford to spend.

Personally, I feel bringing Moyes back wouldn't bring stability to the 'club', not even maybe to the playing staff either. Plus it wouldn't be a case of here's £20m to acquire someone in January, unless there is an outgoing, and we don't currently know if there has been an agreement made between EFC and Chelsea regards the Broja deal. Will DCL be going the other way in January or season's end? Everton is just not the same beast it was, and makes the politics at West Ham, look like a local council compared to Everton's Byzantine current eco-system.

In my very humble and naive opinion, I see Dyche getting about another 5-7 games (results depending, no points by the 2nd international window, would surely see him gone?) during which time he gets Branners, and Patterson back (Yes, I know re Patto), Chermiti will be getting close. Hopefully Lindstrøm, O'Brien and Malanga will have been introduced or integrated more into the team and results will pick up, as would hopefully the players confidence. If he does turn it around then all is well, and this thread is mute for a few months...

As for the listed managers;

Graham Potter - Why would he, or should further jeopardise his reputation by taking on a basket case of a club like us now?

Thomas Franks - See Graham Potter above, and he has the total control of the first team, including a huge say in recruitment and sales at Brentford.

Leighton Baines - (In my best John McEnroe voice) "You cannot be serious!! Really, oh I see he once played for Everton and won diddly squat..?

Vincent Kompany - Ah, so after trying to be Pep-lite last season with a nearly new team for Burnley and going straight back down, the mighty Bayern Munich saw something in him, and decided to take a punt on him, probably due to their superb 'Germanic' organisation, and long serving, highly experienced club personnel, who have kept the Bavarian giants rolling along at the top for years. Whilst Everton ask if he'd like to be our next manager... Plus just exactly what has he done as a manager?

Steven Schumacher - Again, why Steve? If he was as good at football management as his name sake was at driving an F1 car, yes please, but in the clubs present situation, and with a pastiche of players from various mangers, and some not at the level required anymore. He'd be on a hiding to nothing with 3-4 bad results.

Wayne Rooney - The return of the Messiah, or is he just a very naughty boy..? Again, everything he has tried hasn't worked out well. Also Everton and the situation at Derby County are very similar, so I don't think he has just enough yet to be able to succeed as our manager. One for the future maybe?

Marcelo Bielsa - He'd break our threadbare squad within two months and we'd be bolloxed for the rest of the season, plus I feel this bird has flown the coop as it were, since Moshiri's last flirtation with him.

Christophe Galtier - An excellent manager, who I'd have in a heartbeat, BUT doesn't speak English and has publicly stated, in 2021, he does not and will not manage in the EPL.

Pellegrino Matarazzo - I don't know enough about him, other than reading stats etc

Ernesto Valverde - I don't know enough about him, other than reading stats etc

In reality, I feel Dyche and the Club are currently wedded together until either i) his record becomes untenable during the season, and/or ii) we have new ownership (Which even if a bidder was announced as successfully agreeing a deal with Moshiri and the creditors tomorrow) would still take 12-16 weeks to ratify and get signed off by the EPL. Which means mid-December at the earliest. Would that be too late to shift Dyche then? Or even worse, knowing the clubs relationship with the EPL, they'd probably grant this hypothetical takeover for the last few days of the January window so we couldn't help our PSR situation nor buy/sell players as we would like)

For me it means we have to keep the faith with Dyche (unless say after seven games we're pointless or stuck in 20th), then my first choice would be Carlos Corberan from WBA, or go and get Seb Hoeness from Stuttgart. (Along with maybe Rangnick as a new Sporting Director?)

Either way the other thing that needs to be sorted out before we get to the January, is what are we going to do with Thelwell? Keep him, or bring in Moyes and get Moyes to move upstairs, displace Thelwell and get in another manager?

Corberan has shown he can get a squad to play under difficult and eerily similar circumstances, and can navigate the 'boardroom' channels. Plus he has experience of the 'English way'. Note #1 Only thing against him, is that he has taken Holgate back on loan at WBA. A big black mark for some Evertonians I'm sure... Or is it really a bonus..? "Thank you Carlos, now manage us and get your reward!" Hehe 😁

Seb Hoeness has just been excellent where he's been other than his 'fall from grace' whilst at Hoffenheim. However, that appeared to be more of a club issue than manager issue. As an aside, he has already worked with Rangnick (Bayern), and they were successful together, so maybe bring in Rangnick and Hoeness as a pair? DoF and Coach. NB Not manager, do what Brentford do with Frank, let Hoeness coach the players and leave everything else to RR.
 

Why not? If you don’t ask you don’t get. £6mill a year might have something to do with them coming.

Nah, screw it, Let’s just get moyes, allardyce or happy arry Redknapp, Tony pulis or maybe even Neil Warnock in eh? Great positive forward thinking managers like that.
Not sure I'd be keen to have someone who comes just for the money.

Top managers wouldn't be swayed by money anyway imo.
It's about ego's for them and the chance to manage at the top level.

We need to find someone who fancies a project like Moyes did in 2002.
 
Why not? If you don’t ask you don’t get. £6mill a year might have something to do with them coming.

Nah, screw it, Let’s just get moyes, allardyce or happy arry Redknapp, Tony pulis or maybe even Neil Warnock in eh? Great positive forward thinking managers like that.


Why do you want any of those?
 
I was open to considering Moyes over the weekend, and in the aftermath of Saturday.

On reflection, whilst he would be far from the worst candidate, we have to look forward and not back.


There will always be some reason to look to the familiar, let's get safe, let's get to the new stadium, let's have the new owner in. Then we make change.

Despite limited options, we should still look to be ambitious and progressive. We can do that without being reckless.

Moyes was exactly what we needed in 2002. He is not today.

This is my thinking too ;)
 
I was open to considering Moyes over the weekend, and in the aftermath of Saturday.

On reflection, whilst he would be far from the worst candidate, we have to look forward and not back.

There will always be some reason to look to the familiar, let's get safe, let's get to the new stadium, let's have the new owner in. Then we make change.

Despite limited options, we should still look to be ambitious and progressive. We can do that without being reckless.

Moyes was exactly what we needed in 2002. He is not today.
Yeah I was doing the same. I don’t think it is what we need but desperate times call for desperate measures. Are we at that point yet?
 
I was open to considering Moyes over the weekend, and in the aftermath of Saturday.

On reflection, whilst he would be far from the worst candidate, we have to look forward and not back.

There will always be some reason to look to the familiar, let's get safe, let's get to the new stadium, let's have the new owner in. Then we make change.

Despite limited options, we should still look to be ambitious and progressive. We can do that without being reckless.

Moyes was exactly what we needed in 2002. He is not today.
Yes, I think probably Dyche was what we we needed in early 2023 as well, but it's not what is needed in July or September 2024. Need to move on now. Therefore was a bit of liability to give him such a contract.
 

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