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d34noj said:
I've read her book, it also blatantly shows how male she was (unwittingy).

He wife Violet is the mother of their 2 daughters by way of artificial insemination WITH CASTERS SPERM.

The FACT is 46 XY DSD is a disorder which only affects males - regardless of your viewpoint, it's just a fact. That's how I've labelled her a man.
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Coming back to this now as I've finished the book fully and done a lot more reading about it to educate myself further. I think intersex is the only way she can be described accurately and me labelling her a female was incorrect, but equally, you labelling her a man is also incorrect. She has XY chromosomes so I concede she is biologically male in that sense but she has female external genitalia so I dispute that she is a man. Can you also point me to where it's proven that it was Casters sperm that was used in the insemination process as I didn't see that in the book and she says early on that she cannot contribute to new life and she cannot produce sperm?
heatmeiser said:
I think in 10 years time people may look back on such rudimentary statements as "she has a vagina therefore she is a woman" as shameful actually.

The fact Caster was born with testicles and without a uterus is a touch more of a defining factor but I think it all boils down to the governing body growing a pair (ok poor choice of phrase) and introducing stricter controls regarding testosterone - both synthetic and natural.
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I wouldn't go that far as my earlier comment was due to me not being fully educated on the subject (rather than being deliberately misleading) and I concede that my comment wasn't correct.

She was born with internal testes and a vagina externally. I'd say that points to her being intersex so I don't see why the internal testes are more of a defining factor.

One thing that is telling is that despite the perceived advantages of her increased testosterone she only ever ran a 1:54 800m. Keely Hodgkinson has now matched that and the Czech runner with the World Record ran a 1:53. Hardly points to an insurmountable advantage. The actual men generally run 1:40-1:44 at World Class Level so 10-14 seconds than Semenya was able to.
 



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