Paris Olympics 2024

[McBain]

 

[Bungle]

92kg+ semi, and the France lad who scored the knock down is beaten somehow. It's a 10-8 that minimum?

Christ

 

[McBain]

 

[McBain]

 

[cronullasharks]

 

[cronullasharks]

Kennedy did well to win gold.

The English girl Molly Caudery who ballsed the qualifying round up has jumped higher this year though...

Maybe next time then. Oh well

 

[carlos21]

Hi sharks.

 

[cronullasharks]

Hi sharks.

Hey buddy, how's Carlos?

 

[alwaysblue]

We were at the Velodrome yesterday and my wife was trying to stop my daughters singing 'same old Aussies always cheating' whenever they saw an Aussie shirt.

I was very proud, but had to explain to them that Aussies are very nice people they just cheat at cricket.

 

[pejic]

BBC coverage is unwatchable. Brit wins a silver and they talk about it for 40 minutes, then at end of broadcast, it's oh by the way, this was the winning throw in the discus and winning pole vault. Just show the action and bin the pundits. Eurosport is better but commentators don't seem to know basic rules of any of the competitions

 

[dublinbluenose]

BBC coverage is unwatchable. Brit wins a silver and they talk about it for 40 minutes, then at end of broadcast, it's oh by the way, this was the winning throw in the discus and winning pole vault. Just show the action and bin the pundits. Eurosport is better but commentators don't seem to know basic rules of any of the competitions

The discus was insane, an OR that had been held for about 2 decades was broken by the previous holders son, only for it to be broken again by the next athlete.

 

[daza_1973]

Finally the aussies snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in the womens open water event.
Certainly wouldn't want to swim in the seine it looks filthy.

 

[d34noj]

Coming back to this now as I've finished the book fully and done a lot more reading about it to educate myself further. I think intersex is the only way she can be described accurately and me labelling her a female was incorrect, but equally, you labelling her a man is also incorrect. She has XY chromosomes so I concede she is biologically male in that sense but she has female external genitalia so I dispute that she is a man. Can you also point me to where it's proven that it was Casters sperm that was used in the insemination process as I didn't see that in the book and she says early on that she cannot contribute to new life and she cannot produce sperm?

I wouldn't go that far as my earlier comment was due to me not being fully educated on the subject (rather than being deliberately misleading) and I concede that my comment wasn't correct.

She was born with internal testes and a vagina externally. I'd say that points to her being intersex so I don't see why the internal testes are more of a defining factor.

One thing that is telling is that despite the perceived advantages of her increased testosterone she only ever ran a 1:54 800m. Keely Hodgkinson has now matched that and the Czech runner with the World Record ran a 1:53. Hardly points to an insurmountable advantage. The actual men generally run 1:40-1:44 at World Class Level so 10-14 seconds than Semenya was able to.

This feels like a science lesson!

The first bolded section is a bit of a contradiction. In mammals, sex is determined by chromosomes & gametes - meaning XY & sperm = male, XX & ova = female. The fact Semenya has testes which produce sperm makes 'her' male/man. 46 XY 5-ARD (5-alpha-reductase deficiency) is a DSD which only affects males - in the same way prostate cancer only affects males. She recently stated in an interview that 'her testicles don't make her any less of a woman'.

The testes are THE ONLY defining factor, they're what make and distribute the male levels of testosterone, the same way as ovaries create the female levels of oestrogen.

As for the advantages, that basically means that Caster Semenya is an average male runner - not a world class female runner. What you're saying is all men should beat all women - it's simply not the case. The same goes for Imane Khelif, he is an average male boxer - the 9 losses he's suffered are because he's an average male boxer, but still has insurmountable advantages over biological females.

I feel for Semenya & Khelif - they didn't ask to be born with these conditions, but the biological fact remains that they're the wrong sex for the category they compete in. 0.00025% of the world's population are diagnosed with 46 XY 5-ARD, yet 3 of them won gold/silver/bronze in the 800m in Rio, does this not prove the massive advantage they hold over biological women?


Anyway, I don't want to ruin this thread with another debate so Ewa Swodoba eh!

 

[davek]

BBC coverage is unwatchable. Brit wins a silver and they talk about it for 40 minutes, then at end of broadcast, it's oh by the way, this was the winning throw in the discus and winning pole vault. Just show the action and bin the pundits. Eurosport is better but commentators don't seem to know basic rules of any of the competitions

They watch the Games through union jack glasses.

I love the olympics but cant stand the jingoism of the BBC. The sooner they shut that cess pit down the better.

 

[davek]

The discus was insane, an OR that had been held for about 2 decades was broken by the previous holders son, only for it to be broken again by the next athlete.

Was that given extensive coverage on RTE? We had the grand total of about 3 minutes coverage on the BBC. They preferred instead to use up about an hour's worth of coverage on loser Hudson-Smith's latest failure...40 odd seconds to cover the actual race and 59 minutes and 10 seconds or so to talk us through how he almost won it.

An utter shambles of a state broadcaster.