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Paris Olympics 2024

Christ, some people going on about this boxer as if she’s Ivan Drago.

Look at her record, doesn’t knock people out. She loses plenty too. Got actual female boxing champions defending her.

The fact of the matter is, actually watch the moment the Italian girl is whacked. She doesn’t have any form of a guard up. Basic stuff.

Caster Semanya all over. Leave the woman in peace.
 

grandjoeblue said:
She's not male either though is she? Also the 'test' which has never been made public was completed by IBA which GB, USA and about 20 other nations left because it's completely corrupt. They're also not allowed to run the olympic boxing due to their corruption.

If she fought a male she'd get knocked out in seconds, she isnt male and people acting like she's cheating when she's competed for at least 8 years as a female are being harsh. I do think it's complicated. If proper testing was completed and it's worked out she shouldn't be eligible to compete thats fine.

IBA let her fight 4 times in the world championships and decided on the day or day before the final she wasn't a female and then never released any results? Some transparency would be helpful.
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5α-Reductase 2 deficiency (5-ARD) is a condition which only affects males, ambiguous genitalia and internal (usually functional) testes. Assigned female at birth generally due to a lack of penis.

She has all the advantages a male has, stronger, denser bones, larger lungs. If she is the same weight as a male fighter, and as talented then it's an even fight. Putting her against a biological female the same weight is a 50-60% upper body strength difference in her favour due to being biologically male.

Have a read up on the science mate, it's stark reading.
 
d34noj said:
Born male, has the same DSD which Caster Semenya has - 5α-Reductase 2 deficiency (5-ARD) which only affects biological males, hence failing a gender/testosterone test with the IOC.

Babies born with such DSD's are generally bought up as female due to ambiguous genitalia - However they're in no way 'female'.
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Says who?

medlineplus.gov

Swyer syndrome: MedlinePlus Genetics

Swyer syndrome is a condition that affects sex development. Explore symptoms, inheritance, genetics of this condition.
medlineplus.gov medlineplus.gov

In Swyer syndrome, individuals have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome in each cell, which is the pattern typically found in boys and men; however, they have female reproductive structures.

People with Swyer syndrome have female external genitalia and some female internal reproductive structures. These individuals usually have a uterus and fallopian tubes, but their gonads (ovaries or testes) are not functional. Instead, the gonads are small and underdeveloped and contain little gonadal tissue. These structures are called streak gonads. The streak gonadal tissue is at risk of developing cancer that is often hard-to-detect, so it is usually removed surgically. Swyer syndrome is also called 46,XY complete gonadal dysgenesis; the medical term “dysgenesis” means "abnormal development."

Because they appear female on the outside, babies with Swyer syndrome are usually raised as girls and develop a female gender identity, which is a person's sense of their gender.

Women with Swyer syndrome do not produce eggs (ova), but if they have a uterus, they may be able to become pregnant with a donated egg or embryo.

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Don't know any males that the above applies to...
 
d34noj said:
5α-Reductase 2 deficiency (5-ARD) is a condition which only affects males, ambiguous genitalia and internal (usually functional) testes. Assigned female at birth generally due to a lack of penis.

She has all the advantages a male has, stronger, denser bones, larger lungs. If she is the same weight as a male fighter, and as talented then it's an even fight. Putting her against a biological female the same weight is a 50-60% upper body strength difference in her favour due to being biologically male.

Have a read up on the science mate, it's stark reading.
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But nobody could say for sure what condition she has.

Her KO percentage is about 12% in 40+ fight so she must not train very well if she has that condition. I wouldn't be surprised if she lost in this Olympics as she's lost regularly in the past.
 
TraffordBlue said:
Says who?

medlineplus.gov

Swyer syndrome: MedlinePlus Genetics

Swyer syndrome is a condition that affects sex development. Explore symptoms, inheritance, genetics of this condition.
medlineplus.gov medlineplus.gov

In Swyer syndrome, individuals have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome in each cell, which is the pattern typically found in boys and men; however, they have female reproductive structures.

People with Swyer syndrome have female external genitalia and some female internal reproductive structures. These individuals usually have a uterus and fallopian tubes, but their gonads (ovaries or testes) are not functional. Instead, the gonads are small and underdeveloped and contain little gonadal tissue. These structures are called streak gonads. The streak gonadal tissue is at risk of developing cancer that is often hard-to-detect, so it is usually removed surgically. Swyer syndrome is also called 46,XY complete gonadal dysgenesis; the medical term “dysgenesis” means "abnormal development."

Because they appear female on the outside, babies with Swyer syndrome are usually raised as girls and develop a female gender identity, which is a person's sense of their gender.

Women with Swyer syndrome do not produce eggs (ova), but if they have a uterus, they may be able to become pregnant with a donated egg or embryo.

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Don't know any males that the above applies to...
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Hasn't got Swyers Syndrome as they don't produce excessive testosterone. Women with Swyers don't go through puberty unless they take hormones.
 


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