Paulo Fonseca

[Tez]

Tbf to Samosaurus, that atmosphere is one any incoming manager will struggle with unless they ruthlessly deal with it this summer.

At a minimum that means slinging out the likes of Baines, Jagielka, Williams, Schneiderlin and Rooney.

Get shut of that lot and the FF dynamic is changed for good. Dont get shut and we'll be seeing more managers than Crystal Palace do.

Spot on. (Add Mirallas to that too.)

 

[Bluewolf]

Tbf to Samosaurus, that atmosphere is one any incoming manager will struggle with unless they ruthlessly deal with it this summer.

At a minimum that means slinging out the likes of Baines, Jagielka, Williams, Schneiderlin and Rooney.

Get shut of that lot and the FF dynamic is changed for good. Dont get shut and we'll be seeing more managers than Crystal Palace do.

Literally no proof that there are players causing problems. Just the paranoid ramblings of this forums negative nelly. Have you ever considered doing conspiracy theory YouTube videos? You'd make a packet.

Baines, our only left back and loved by the fan base.

Jags, past two seasons has come in to the back when we desperately needed him and sorted out a incredibly bad defence still our best defender overall.

Rooney, our top goal scorer and one if the only two creative players in the squad.

Let's be honest in the summer we need a clear out but I'll be amazed if we bring in more then 4 maybe 5 at a push. In short we can't afford to get rid of any of them three. Their still playing because there the best we've got in those positions. Whether that's because of poor recruitment or just the manager prerogative it it is not because they are going round bullying people and forcing themselves into the team.

 

[Big Fat Sam]

Tbf to Samosaurus, that atmosphere is one any incoming manager will struggle with unless they ruthlessly deal with it this summer.

At a minimum that means slinging out the likes of Baines, Jagielka, Williams, Schneiderlin and Rooney.

Get shut of that lot and the FF dynamic is changed for good. Dont get shut and we'll be seeing more managers than Crystal Palace do.

 

[davek]

Literally no proof that there are players causing problems. Just the paranoid ramblings of this forums negative nelly. Have you ever considered doing conspiracy theory YouTube videos? You'd make a packet.

Baines, our only left back and loved by the fan base.
Jags, past two seasons has come in to the back when we desperately needed him and sorted out a incredibly bad defence still our best defender overall.
Rooney, our top goal scorer and one if the only two creative players in the squad.

Let's be honest in the summer we need a clear out but I'll be amazed if we bring in more then 4 maybe 5 at a push. In short we can't afford to get rid of any of them three. Their still playing because there the best we've got in those positions. Whether that's because of poor recruitment or just the manager prerogative it it is not because they are going round bullying people and forcing themselves into the team.

THAT (if true) is an indictment of this club.

Any outsider wondering what has gone drastically wrong need only read that post of yours.

 

[jackyboy]

THAT (if true) is an indictment of this club.

Any outsider wondering what has gone drastically wrong need only read that post of yours.

Is Baines actually "loved" by the fanbase?

 

[davek]

Is Baines actually "loved" by the fanbase?

In the minds of a load of biffs holding up bedsheets Baines was a convenient port in a storm. Baines = anti-Martinez.

Who on earth apart from them for that specific reason would "love" such a no mark?

 

[Goat]

In the minds of a load of biffs holding up bedsheets Baines was a convenient port in a storm. Baines = anti-Martinez.

Who on earth apart from them for that specific reason would "love" such a no mark?

ONE
OF
US

 

[kev]

In the minds of a load of biffs holding up bedsheets Baines was a convenient port in a storm. Baines = anti-Martinez.

Who on earth apart from them for that specific reason would "love" such a no mark?

I doubt that anyone 'loves' him for that specific reason, although evidently it does go a long way to explaining your illogical hatred of one of our better players.
You are obsessed with ole brown shoes. He's gone @davek, get over him.

 

[davek]

ONE
OF
US

Kopite and Blackburn fan.

You can have him.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Tbf to Samosaurus, that atmosphere is one any incoming manager will struggle with unless they ruthlessly deal with it this summer.

At a minimum that means slinging out the likes of Baines, Jagielka, Williams, Schneiderlin and Rooney.

Get shut of that lot and the FF dynamic is changed for good. Dont get shut and we'll be seeing more managers than Crystal Palace do.

Regardless of if they are indeed the cause of friction, they all need replacing. A change in the mentality of some of our long standing players wouldn't do us any harm either.

Baines/Jagielka seem resigned to the ''best of the rest' moniker, Rooney looks like his heart is in it but his body can't produce and Williams should not play for us again after his cowardly sending off. Schneiderlin looks half hearted every time he's plays.

Mentality is as much a factor as talent and ours needs an upheaval.

 

[davek]

I doubt that anyone 'loves' him for that specific reason, although evidently it does go a long way to explaining your illogical hatred of one of our better players.
You are obsessed with ole brown shoes. He's gone @davek, get over him.

He and Jagielka are poison. If those two are shown the door we have half a chance of building something. If one or both remain next season then we are in the gutter again.

 

[rockin' robin]

In the minds of a load of biffs holding up bedsheets Baines was a convenient port in a storm. Baines = anti-Martinez.

Who on earth apart from them for that specific reason would "love" such a no mark?

Too far. Great servant to the club. Been a wonderful player for us. Him and pienaar were fantastic for a while together. Think your mask has slipped there Dave. You’re no everton fan. No way.

 

[davek]

Regardless of if they are indeed the cause of friction, they all need replacing. A change in the mentality of some of our long standing players wouldn't do us any harm either.

Baines/Jagielka seem resigned to the ''best of the rest' moniker, Rooney looks like his heart is in it but his body can't produce and Williams should not play for us again after his cowardly sending off. Schneiderlin looks half hearted every time he's plays.

Mentality is as much a factor as talent and ours needs an upheaval.

We need a massive clear out.

To me, it makes no sense hiring managers when that lot are in place. It's like trying to build a house on a swamp.

 

[Jebus_lives]

He and Jagielka are poison. If those two are shown the door we have half a chance of building something. If one or both remain next season then we are in the gutter again.

Both are past their best and need to be moved on/aside.

 

[davek]

Too far. Great servant to the club. Been a wonderful player for us. Him and pienaar were fantastic for a while together. Think your mask has slipped there Dave. You’re no everton fan. No way.

I'm no Everton fan because I'm against a player who has no discipline and has briefed the media against the manager/team in the past, and who now has nothing to offer so I wont be sentimental about his pretty mediocre waning talent?

Ok.