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Paulo Fonseca

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davek said:
They have previous in creating and/or deepening a crisis, certainly Baines has. These two have been central as senior players in this team for years. As said earlier above the word I've been given is that there is a clique in that squad of senior players who are an alternate source of power to management.
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We should obviously be looking for better,but this season our form improved when Baines came back and if we'd only had the Welsh walkabout and no Jagielka we'd have been in real trouble.Next seasons squad players for the cup games.
 

davek said:
THAT (if true) is an indictment of this club.

Any outsider wondering what has gone drastically wrong need only read that post of yours.
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Lad you are... I mean... You don't...What you say literally makes no sense. You Literally have no proof in your claims. Yet you spout them off like facts.

Baines isn't loved by the fan base? and a no Mark despite at one point being widely regarded as the best LB in the league and one of the best in Europe.

You don't like him because he slagged off Martinez? The same man who publicly embarrassed Baines by making him apologise about talking to the press. Then in the next breath condoning lukaku mouthing off about leaving us every time he went on a international.

Personally I'm made up Baines came out and said something about that fraud. I'm made up he got him the sack if he did because Martinez was poison to everton. He took a good stable top 7 side and bought crap and gutted this club. You want to know why were in such a mess with relying on players like Baines, jags and Rooney looks at your boy. Look at the absolute crap he bought in to replace our squad.

The only player he got right was lukaku and that was by accident because we rang up to try to get demba ba. That's why were relying on players like them because the stuff Martinez got in was so bad. That's why when koeman came in we had to go for stop gaps like williams and bolasie and stek because we had to address the absolute dross left after that womble gutted this club and we ended up paying him 12 million for the privilege.

People say all these players aren't good enough for our side well guess what? yes they are because their mid table players and were a mid table club all because that absolute disgrace of a manager turned us into one and there is absolutely zero doubt in my mind he would of taken us down?

That's why we've been panic buying players for the last two season's to try and sort out his mess. Okay we haven't got it all spot on but imagine you have a nice house and someone comes in and destroys the foundations and your running around trying to keep the walls up with beams.

We need a settled spine of a team we can build around, a foundation we can build a new house on top of that's the problem. Not some mad conspiracy theory you've just came up with to suit your agenda with Martinez. Who I will say now, over my 30 odd years of watching football is the worst manager I have ever seen in charge of everton.
 
Bluewolf said:
Lad you are... I mean... You don't...What you say literally makes no sense. You Literally have no proof in your claims. Yet you spout them off like facts.

Baines isn't loved by the fan base? and a no Mark despite at one point being widely regarded as the best LB in the league and one of the best in Europe.

You don't like him because he slagged off Martinez? The same man who publicly embarrassed Baines by making him apologise about talking to the press. Then in the next breath condoning lukaku mouthing off about leaving us every time he went on a international.

Personally I'm made up Baines came out and said something about that fraud. I'm made up he got him the sack if he did because Martinez was poison to everton. He took a good stable top 7 side and bought crap and gutted this club. You want to know why were in such a mess with relying on players like Baines, jags and Rooney looks at your boy. Look at the absolute crap he bought in to replace our squad.

The only player he got right was lukaku and that was by accident because we rang up to try to get demba ba. That's why were relying on players like them because the stuff Martinez got in was so bad. That's why when koeman came in we had to go for stop gaps like williams and bolasie and stek because we had to address the absolute dross left after that womble gutted this club and we ended up paying him 12 million for the privilege.

People say all these players aren't good enough for our side well guess what? yes they are because their mid table players and were a mid table club all because that absolute disgrace of a manager turned us into one and there is absolutely zero doubt in my mind he would of taken us down?

That's why we've been panic buying players for the last two season's to try and sort out his mess. Okay we haven't got it all spot on but imagine you have a nice house and someone comes in and destroys the foundations and your running around trying to keep the walls up with beams.

We need a settled spine of a team we can build around, a foundation we can build a new house on top of that's the problem. Not some mad conspiracy theory you've just came up with to suit your agenda with Martinez. Who I will say now, over my 30 odd years of watching football is the worst manager I have ever seen in charge of everton.
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Prepare for incoming mate and you`d better baton down the hatches lol

Ps - If I`m gonna split hairs, Mike Walker was worse and Allardyce`s football is even worse to watch, than Walter Smiths full team of defenders
 

Bluewolf said:
When Coleman came back we lost 3 of the 5 games he played in before Baines came back.

Since Baines came back we have lost 1 game in 4 and that was to city but don't let things like facts get in the way of your agenda...
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The whole mood of the team changed with Coleman. He inspires his team mates. Baines doesn't inspire, because to inspire you have to care passionately and be prepared to give everything on the pitch. That's not Baines.
 
Bluewolf said:
Lad you are... I mean... You don't...What you say literally makes no sense. You Literally have no proof in your claims. Yet you spout them off like facts.

Baines isn't loved by the fan base? and a no Mark despite at one point being widely regarded as the best LB in the league and one of the best in Europe.

You don't like him because he slagged off Martinez? The same man who publicly embarrassed Baines by making him apologise about talking to the press. Then in the next breath condoning lukaku mouthing off about leaving us every time he went on a international.

Personally I'm made up Baines came out and said something about that fraud. I'm made up he got him the sack if he did because Martinez was poison to everton. He took a good stable top 7 side and bought crap and gutted this club. You want to know why were in such a mess with relying on players like Baines, jags and Rooney looks at your boy. Look at the absolute crap he bought in to replace our squad.

The only player he got right was lukaku and that was by accident because we rang up to try to get demba ba. That's why were relying on players like them because the stuff Martinez got in was so bad. That's why when koeman came in we had to go for stop gaps like williams and bolasie and stek because we had to address the absolute dross left after that womble gutted this club and we ended up paying him 12 million for the privilege.

People say all these players aren't good enough for our side well guess what? yes they are because their mid table players and were a mid table club all because that absolute disgrace of a manager turned us into one and there is absolutely zero doubt in my mind he would of taken us down?

That's why we've been panic buying players for the last two season's to try and sort out his mess. Okay we haven't got it all spot on but imagine you have a nice house and someone comes in and destroys the foundations and your running around trying to keep the walls up with beams.

We need a settled spine of a team we can build around, a foundation we can build a new house on top of that's the problem. Not some mad conspiracy theory you've just came up with to suit your agenda with Martinez. Who I will say now, over my 30 odd years of watching football is the worst manager I have ever seen in charge of everton.
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Have to agree on Martinez’s purchases
He bought the spine of a relegated Wigan team Robles , Alcaraz ,McCarthy ( best of the lot ) and the wage robber Kone.
He also signed wait for it Aidan flipping MCGeady and hailed him as the new George Best
He got luck with Lukaku but we all knew from his time at WBA he was a natural goal scorer
 

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