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Paulo Fonseca

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Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham and ourselves will all be looking for new managers. We’ll end up with the one that the other three don’t want.
 
I think any "other" team that is going to need a manager isn't going to want to try one that has "marginal" upside (to them) but a huge downside. They all have VERY high expectations. We HOPE Fonseca could get us up and around there. They already ARE up and around there.
 
Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham and ourselves will all be looking for new managers. We’ll end up with the one that the other three don’t want.
Wenger won`t leave Arsenal - has a year left and he`s part of the furniture, so can`t be forced out. Plus he`ll be the one who chooses his successor.

Chelsea will want someone with a proven pedigree.

Pochettino hasn`t given any signs that he wants to leave, plus Madrid are starting to do their usual unsettling process through the media with him.

Ancellotti is available and has said he wants to manage in the Premier League again - it`ll be a London club.

Make of that what you will.
 

so would the money from 3 or 4 much better placed European teams come june.

he will have many options
But it is literally only 3 or 4 European teams that would offer the same money, such is the bizarre Premier League pay levels situation. Everton will probably put him into the top 10 best paid managers in the world, with probably the most time to prove himself without pressure in that group, as long as progress is fairly visible. A good manager who really backed himself, would be here in a heartbeat to prove himself as one of the best.

There is no need to belittle the allure of Everton's appeal to the likes of Fonseca. The only weakness is in getting the elite managers such as Pep, Simeone et al. They will most likely want to go to a finished (or near finished) article in terms of team/ squad where they can start challenging for silverware straight away.
 
But it is literally only 3 or 4 European teams that would offer the same money, such is the bizarre Premier League pay levels situation. Everton will probably put him into the top 10 best paid managers in the world, with probably the most time to prove himself without pressure in that group, as long as progress is fairly visible. A good manager who really backed himself, would be here in a heartbeat to prove himself as one of the best.

There is no need to belittle the allure of Everton's appeal to the likes of Fonseca. The only weakness is in getting the elite managers such as Pep, Simeone et al. They will most likely want to go to a finished (or near finished) article in terms of team/ squad where they can start challenging for silverware straight away.

I do think in theory that Fonseca should be within our grasp and not seen as ready to take a bigger job yet.

To a large extent our struggle to replace Koeman stemmed from a simple lack of planning and lack of available candidates in mid-season.

My concern is what the club do or are doing to offset any concerns that a real-deal, genuine candidate, with ambition, will inevitably have if they sit down and look at us analytically with their agent and advisors.

On the outside, we seem to and do have an unwieldy and complicated structure and it certainly doesn't scream of the zeal to succeed and win.

We seem to have a culture that fosters a situation such that the manager of the day is almost subsumed by the general malaise the club finds itself in and just goes with the party line., sooner or later.

Moyes was the classic example of this. Martinez talked a good game I'll give him that. Koeman always seemed to have an excuse up his sleeve and Allardyce has just plunged to new depths in promoting us as a club that can't really aspire to anything.
 
I do think in theory that Fonseca should be within our grasp and not seen as ready to take a bigger job yet.

To a large extent our struggle to replace Koeman stemmed from a simple lack of planning and lack of available candidates in mid-season.

My concern is what the club do or are doing to offset any concerns that a real-deal, genuine candidate, with ambition, will inevitably have if they sit down and look at us analytically with their agent and advisors.

On the outside, we seem to and do have an unwieldy and complicated structure and it certainly doesn't scream of the zeal to succeed and win.

We seem to have a culture that fosters a situation such that the manager of the day is almost subsumed by the general malaise the club finds itself in and just goes with the party line., sooner or later.

Moyes was the classic example of this. Martinez talked a good game I'll give him that. Koeman always seemed to have an excuse up his sleeve and Allardyce has just plunged to new depths in promoting us as a club that can't really aspire to anything.
I cannot disagree with any of this.

Are we a club trying to transition too much in too many directions - manager/ playing staff/ stadium/ owner/ DOF that it's inevitable. As ever the next manager is critical to sorting this out. I do hope we have everything in place this time for when our current manager leaves the building.
 
Right I've decided it is happening.

We are getting him, Bernard and Ferreyra all out of contract this summer.

Gives us two players familiar with his system, both of good ages and Champions League proven.

A front 4 of:

Ferreyra
Bernard Sigurdsson Walcott

looks a lot more balanced and threatening that we've had for a while.

With Tosun/Vlasic/Lookman/Dowell/Oneykuru/DCL/Niasse/Klaassen on the books to come in, or sell to raise the money for new attacking fullbacks and passing deep playmakers.

Bernard I could see happening if Fonseca comes in but Ferreyra? He spent a season on loan at Newcastle recently and didn't play at all. Seriously doubt the club would approach him.
 

Bernard I could see happening if Fonseca comes in but Ferreyra? He spent a season on loan at Newcastle recently and didn't play at all. Seriously doubt the club would approach him.

I don't think the problem with some players doing well in the Premier league is to do with the league, but rather the style of the team they play on.

Start playing 50 yard passes up whilst he has 3 centre backs around him and he'll look useless. Nice passes into his feet around the area and he'd be good. It is why I haven't entirely written off our flop signings from the summer. Give them a chance under a manager who believes in passing and they might come good.
 
I don't think the problem with some players doing well in the Premier league is to do with the league, but rather the style of the team they play on.

Start playing 50 yard passes up whilst he has 3 centre backs around him and he'll look useless. Nice passes into his feet around the area and he'd be good. It is why I haven't entirely written off our flop signings from the summer. Give them a chance under a manager who believes in passing and they might come good.

I do agree with that mate but the point about Ferreyra was that he didn't play a single minute for Newcastle, not a single minute, despite being fit for the whole season and from what I can tell he trained with the first team as well. I'm definitely not against giving a shot to players who haven't done well at a toxic club under the right circumstances, but taking on a guy who couldn't get a single minute at a woeful Newcastle is a stretch too far I think - even if he is a free transfer.
 
I do agree with that mate but the point about Ferreyra was that he didn't play a single minute for Newcastle, not a single minute, despite being fit for the whole season and from what I can tell he trained with the first team as well. I'm definitely not against giving a shot to players who haven't done well at a toxic club under the right circumstances, but taking on a guy who couldn't get a single minute at a woeful Newcastle is a stretch too far I think - even if he is a free transfer.

Under normal circumstances I'd be with you but given he is free, has worked with the manager and is thriving in his system (23 in 30 games including 3 in 7 CL games) I'd be happy with it.

But I'll leave it up to Paulo :)
 

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