Transfer Rumour Philippe Coutinho

[ForeverBlue92]

Needs to get fit again first though, he has been out injured for about 5 months. We are better off looking for younger hungry players who have something to prove tbh, i'm really fed up of signing/being linked with players who have crap injury records and that our rivals/teams we are looking to challenge would'nt touch with a barge pole.

Tbh Gbamin and Allan had decent fitness records and have been hit by the Everton bug as has Doucoure.

I'll keep saying it Delph/James aside its the fitness/medical staff at this club not the players imo.

 

[Sharpies volley]

No thanks. No doubting he's a very gifted footballer, but that's it. No pace, no work rate. My RS mate was made up when they got rid for the reasons I've stated and was over the moon at what they got for him.

 

[Lanolin]

Just don't see how him and James would work together at all so it'd be a no from me.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Tbh Gbamin and Allan had decent fitness records and have been hit by the Everton bug as has Doucoure.

I'll keep saying it Delph/James aside its the fitness/medical staff at this club not the players imo.

Gbamin had had previous thigh issues before (hence the surgery to correct a previous problem) and Allan has been on the down turn for a few years now, he used to have way more pace than what you see now. It maybe that the medical staff are an issue i don't really know but we do seem to have a lot of weak players who get injured awfully easy imo.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Just don't see how him and James would work together at all so it'd be a no from me.

I would guess that it would be in a Christmas tree formation which is pretty standard for Carlo, so Coutinho and James behind DCL but i could only see that if Richarlison goes (i actually think he might tbh rather than this DCL thing that's going about at the moment)

 

[trueblue84]

Tbh Gbamin and Allan had decent fitness records and have been hit by the Everton bug as has Doucoure.

I'll keep saying it Delph/James aside its the fitness/medical staff at this club not the players imo.

It is a bit unfair to pin the blame on the fitness/medical staff. Gbamin was at the club 5 minutes when he first got injured. Likewise, Allan hadn't been here that long when he got injured. They couldn't have had that much influence on his fitness levels. gbamin's subsequent injuries where freak injuries.

They have also seen some very quick recoveries from injuries, which suggests they know what they're doing.

I'd look more towards the type of day-to-day training we're doing. One of the journos commented that Godfrey treats training like a match and flies into challenges. Moise Kean also suggested that training at Everton wasn't enjoyable (hardly solid proof but maybe hints at the problem). Perhaps because the players are a bit ott and take it too serious.

 

[Lanolin]

I would guess that it would be in a Christmas tree formation which is pretty standard for Carlo, so Coutinho and James behind DCL but i could only see that if Richarlison goes (i actually think he might tbh rather than this DCL thing that's going about at the moment)

Yeah formation wise I can see it, I meant more style wise. I just can't see it working, both would want to be the main man, both offer pretty much the same skillset and have the same weaknesses. I don't really see them working that well with DCL, who very much wants balls across the box for one touch finishes rather than through balls. Coutinho is a very good player and in the right circumstances i'd be all over it, but I don't think these are even close to being the right circumstances.

 

[DanB90]

Has he worked with Ancelotti before? I know they were both at Bayern a few years ago, but pretty sure Ancelotti had already left by the time Coutinho got there.

Either way, can’t see it happening.

 

[Joey66]

Another old has been why do we sign old players ?

 

[diggerdestroyer]

I would guess that it would be in a Christmas tree formation which is pretty standard for Carlo, so Coutinho and James behind DCL but i could only see that if Richarlison goes (i actually think he might tbh rather than this DCL thing that's going about at the moment)

Richarlison big work rate would be greatly missed in that formation.

 

[Moomin]

I have no proof, but I think almost all top athletes dope nowadays. When I was a kid all athletes declined in their early thirties, but currently many of the the best tennis, basketball, baseball, and football players are far past that and are still producing at a high level. And some people will point to "sports science" and "modern training" methods, etc., but I just don't believe it. For one thing, physical training is not like pharmaceuticals where you have double-blind, reproducible studies. That is, there's not a lot of "science" to it. For another, there was always some athletes who kept themselves in good shape. Yes, some of them smoked cigarettes and partied in the offseason, but not all of them. And yet no one stayed at their peak into their late 30s, as is not uncommon nowadays.

I remember in baseball after the McGuire/Sosa scandal everyone said, "we should have known something was up." One day we'll say the same about the longevity of today's players. And if we dont it will be because it will be common and accepted and no one will care.

I worked with someone who was ex semi pro in Rugby League and a body builder.

He knew the ins and outs of PED's and advised people on what drugs to take and the usage and so on.

He opened my eyes to it all quite a few years back. It's rife in semi professional sport never mind elite sport.

The testing is underfunded and years behind the new drugs coming onto the market.

The majority of people who get caught is because the lab that produces the drugs has been turned over or its a dodgy batch of drugs.

The trainers and elites know the timing of how long the drugs last in the system and work around it.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Richarlison big work rate would be greatly missed in that formation.

Not really as the 3 in midfield are hard workers box to box types behind that front 3 and as a team we would be playing more narrow straight up the pitch. It's the way that Carlo has played during large parts of his career.

 

[Lanolin]

I worked with someone who was ex semi pro in Rugby League and a body builder.

He knew the ins and outs of PED's and advised people on what drugs to take and the usage and so on.

He opened my eyes to it all quite a few years back. It's rife in semi professional sport never mind elite sport.

The testing is underfunded and years behind the new drugs coming onto the market.

The majority of people who get caught is because the lab that produces the drugs has been turned over or its a dodgy batch of drugs.

The trainers and elites know the timing of how long the drugs last in the system and work around it.

The drug problem in rugby league is embarrassing, both PE and recreational. I reckon about 90% of rugby league players are on both.

 

[jazzy]

Just don't see how him and James would work together at all so it'd be a no from me.

James is left footed and like to play from the left.
Coutinho is right footed and plays mostly from the left so both could be accommodated in a front 3.
However you'd need lots of legs, pace and work rate around them.
He isn't going to sign and probably not what we need but a very interesting possibility and would if fit and motivated would definitely bring much needed creativity.

 

[Lanolin]

James is left footed and like to play from the left.
Coutinho is fight footed and plays mostly from the left so both could be accommodated in a front 3.
However you'd need lots of legs, pace and work rate around them.
He isn't going to sign and probably not what we need but a very interesting possibility and would icfit and motivated would definitely bringmuchneeded creativity.

Yeah this is what I meant when I said it could work in the right circumstances. I just don't think we have the right circumstances at all. There are too many other issues in the side that need to be addressed for it to be a viable option in my opinion.