Politics and stuff

[Bruce Wayne]

As some of the longer term members know, we've had long-running discussions about the merits of political threads on GOT as they tend to result in disagreements and in-fighting amongst Blues.

They, and other similarly 'hot' topics, do tend to be discussed however, so we're going to trial putting them all into the upgraded member lounge, where moderation is more relaxed on account of it being primarily used by members who have shown a willingness to support the site.

Threads that will be put there include topics such as politics, religion, guns and so on. Any existing threads on these topics will be moved over to the upgraded lounge by Sunday evening.

 

[coollino]

*shrug* I'd be quite happy to adhere to the rules more strictly and simply ban all political, religious and racial posts entirely.

Do you think a forum this size could live on a discussion of just football?

 

[Clint Planet]

Sad to hear the Esk is no longer a mod, by the way. I totally missed that.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I know Bruce, before I had a child I was a member. Said child ended that (and the mug) in short order.

I very much doubt many people sign-up here to discuss politics, we're all football fans, some who also like to discuss current affairs together.
Have you actually tried to recruit a suitable mod. ?

I know Dan is looking to add an extra mod but I don't know what stage he's at with that or the timelines he's working towards.

 

[Seathestars]

There are plenty of forums devoted to politics for those that want to discuss such things.
I welcome the idea, because I spend half my time on here trying desperately not to get into political debates,

Yes, you have a point there I think.

 

[The binman chronicles]

I understand banning right wingers from political threads and ISIS members from terrorist threads but everything else seems a bit too much.

Probably for the best, can't imagine Lennon and Deulofeu having views that are much cop...

 

[orchard]

Don't hide behind D+D's rules,i'm sure they could be persuaded to change their minds if such things were adequately moderated.

Again though, in the rules that are visible when everyone registers, political discussions are not allowed on here, so I'm not sure why they would be a motivation for someone signing up. We exist for Hibbert, not Putin.

 

[Prevenger17]

I know Dan is looking to add an extra mod but I don't know what stage he's at with that or the timelines he's working towards.

My application must have gotten lost in the post. Tell him I'm still available.

 

[Seanjd]

Again, as I've said several times before, people shouldn't look at it that way. If you want to support the site financially, then you do so because you want to support the site financially. It does cost a lot to keep the place running, and it's done largely in the spare time of all who do so, so your support is very much appreciated.

As a token of thanks, we give you a mug, and a place that has relaxed moderation, which given the history of political threads seems an ideal place for such topics to be discussed.

To reiterate, by the strict rules of the site, political threads shouldn't be allowed on here as it is, so you shouldn't sign up here under the expectation that you'll be having political discussions. This is an Everton forum

Let's be realistic here, Bruce. People sign up because they are Evertonians. Nobody signs up purely to have a political debate. What happens is, people sign up to view/talk Everton and then see the fantastic conversations which happen in the Ale House part of the forum which interest them too and get involved. I really think you are overstating the conflict in these threads. Perhaps you are more sensitive to that kind of thing, I don't know, but on the whole they are always good-natured.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Do you think a forum this size could live on a discussion of just football?

It doesn't though. Of the 20 topics on the front page of the Ale House, 3 are political.

 

[magicjuan]

How will we know it hasn't worked?

Send a cheque to the members forum for the answer

 

[Seanjd]

It doesn't though. Of the 20 topics on the front page of the Ale House, 3 are political.

Simply not true. 7 of them contain political content.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Don't hide behind D+D's rules,i'm sure they could be persuaded to change their minds if such things were adequately moderated.

I won't speak on their behalf, but generally whenever this topic has been discussed behind the scenes, it was only myself (and Esk) that wanted these kind of threads allowed. It really isn't a case that I'm a lone spoilsport here, but rather that I'm more falling in line with the rest of the mod team.

 

[Tubey]

Again, as I've said several times before, people shouldn't look at it that way. If you want to support the site financially, then you do so because you want to support the site financially. It does cost a lot to keep the place running, and it's done largely in the spare time of all who do so, so your support is very much appreciated.

As a token of thanks, we give you a mug, and a place that has relaxed moderation, which given the history of political threads seems an ideal place for such topics to be discussed.

To reiterate, by the strict rules of the site, political threads shouldn't be allowed on here as it is, so you shouldn't sign up here under the expectation that you'll be having political discussions. This is an Everton forum

Then close the Ale House, which you have for "general discussion", which clearly doesn't fit with your description of this as an Everton forum.

I'm not even being snarky here, it's just that if your argument is that this is an Everton forum and politics doesn't fit it, then how does talking about the merits of a pasty or what song you're currently listening to fit it?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Simply not true. 7 of them contain political content.

Has somebody posted Theresa May in the not even arsed animals thread?

 

[Seanjd]

I know Dan is looking to add an extra mod but I don't know what stage he's at with that or the timelines he's working towards.

Genuinely, if the problem is moderation, I would happily volunteer to moderate Ale House topics.