Politics and stuff

[Bruce Wayne]

As some of the longer term members know, we've had long-running discussions about the merits of political threads on GOT as they tend to result in disagreements and in-fighting amongst Blues.

They, and other similarly 'hot' topics, do tend to be discussed however, so we're going to trial putting them all into the upgraded member lounge, where moderation is more relaxed on account of it being primarily used by members who have shown a willingness to support the site.

Threads that will be put there include topics such as politics, religion, guns and so on. Any existing threads on these topics will be moved over to the upgraded lounge by Sunday evening.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

So when is it coming back?

As I said, it isn't a feature of the standard XenForo software, and I believe isn't a plug-in that is well supported either, so unless we paid someone to build and maintain it, or the developer community release a supported and stable version then it won't be coming back any time soon.

 

[Prevenger17]

As I said, it isn't a feature of the standard XenForo software, and I believe isn't a plug-in that is well supported either, so unless we paid someone to build and maintain it, or the developer community release a supported and stable version then it won't be coming back any time soon.

I was joking, but thank you for the clarification regardless

 

[jal123]

(Neg) rep went for two reasons. Firstly, the forum software stopped supporting it, so we'd have been left with a vulnerable plug-in from a security perspective. To my knowledge, it isn't a functionality that has been re-built by the dev community surrounding our forum software either, so it would need us to hire a developer specifically to build and maintain it just for us. Secondly, it became something that was abused by some to use their strong 'neg powers' to blitz the reputation of new members, which isn't what it's designed for. It created a situation whereby I'm not sure it would have been restored even if the software did exist (which it doesn't).

almosy like a forum elite ganging up on individual posters?
I'm sure glad neg rep has gone as it's stopped that behaviour no doubt...
Oh wait.

 

[Walken]

I would advise all upgrades members to withdraw their support until this tax for voices policy has quite rightly been binned, this is the only avenue of protest available to us, and the only way the likes of Bruce will learn

 

[Goat]

Now is not the time for protest, now is a time of mediation.

 

[TheFinnFan]

@Bruce Wayne have you reconsideted your move

 

[DanEFC92]

May as well close the Ale House.

 

[Walken]

Now is not the time for protest, now is a time of mediation.

This is the right time goatus, and I will risk everything, because if I don't weve lost, we go forward to victory or we go forward to defeat, but we go forwards, only forwards

 

[BlueLlama]

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Is is the right time goatus, and I will risk everything, because of I don't weve lost, we go forward to victory or we go forward to defeat, but we go forwards, only forwards

On my command unleash hell.

 

[Seanjd]

Will somebody just think of the children?

 

[verreauxi]

Pay to play you cheap bastards. Seriously, it's like 4 pints a year or some such.

I can't believe how much effort and excuses are devoted to coming up with arguments against paying the smallest sums of money for a provided service--a service which isn't a democracy and free to make any decisions they want, no matter how unpopular. All the sudden everyone turns into a clever lawyer and lapses into posting some thinly-veiled, easily-unmasked principles when the smallest sums of money are on the line.

Out with the leather billfold, you collection-plate-grabbing misers.

 

[Seanjd]

Pay to play you cheap bastards. Seriously, it's like 4 pints a year or some such.

I can't believe how much effort and excuses are devoted to coming up with arguments against paying the smallest sums of money for a provided service--a service which isn't a democracy and free to make any decisions they want, no matter how unpopular. All the sudden everyone turns into a clever lawyer and lapses into posting some thinly-veiled, easily-unmasked principles when the smallest sums of money are on the line.

Out with the leather billfold, you collection-plate-grabbing misers.

Please recalculate.

 

[Armel]

I learn loads reading the political debates on here.

However, the reason they close is because half of you descend into insulting each other. Like the last EU thread.

Before the insults, it's good debate. The reason you guys insult each other is because neither will budge from their views. Once you guys understand that someone on the internet isn't going to change another one's opinion, and you stop resorting to insults, then perhaps it will be easier for the threads to stay open.

Just my 5 cents.

I'd love to keep reading them, and adding what little I can.

This * 1000.

In the end the EU thread was quite useless. It was basically people telling other people things like that they knew better because they are older (add strategy of other group here). The other side then responded by calling their opponents an idiot/simpleton (something similar). This process kept repeating itself. Also lots of posters who posted in there didn't post with the intention of somewhat adjusting their opinion; it became a giant echo chamber. There was also lots of bickering over who exactly said what and how a piece of a sentence should be interpreted. This all is to be expected off course since the thread was huge.

Still getting rid of political threads seems somewhat steep, would it not be better to moderate them more strictly. E.g: call someone an idiot, get a thread ban and such, if someone persists in calling a regular politician Adolf= thread ban... Seems to me that this way moderating the thing would require less work. Also basically if you want to persuade someone you should appeal to their values, not yours. I think they serve a therapeutic function, more than an informative one. I can however understand your frustrations (@Bruce Wayne ) having to moderate them.

 

[Tigger]

Pay to play you cheap bastards. Seriously, it's like 4 pints a year or some such.

I can't believe how much effort and excuses are devoted to coming up with arguments against paying the smallest sums of money for a provided service--a service which isn't a democracy and free to make any decisions they want, no matter how unpopular. All the sudden everyone turns into a clever lawyer and lapses into posting some thinly-veiled, easily-unmasked principles when the smallest sums of money are on the line.

Out with the leather billfold, you collection-plate-grabbing misers.

Tory talk!

 

[verreauxi]

Please recalculate.

I actually have no idea how much it costs. It's just linked to my paypal account.