Possible Goodison redevelopment.

If we kept the park end and removed the upper levels of the other 3 stands there would be between 16,000 and 17,000 seats, which would be more than enough for the women's team and u21's to play in and the restricted views would all be gone. It would be a lot of work and sadly it is probably easier and cheaper to knock the stadium down and build a new one with a smaller capacity
 

Jeff Jones said:
Whatever happens, I hope the criss-cross feature on the Bullens stand is kept in some capacity,
Either leave it where it is, or put up somewhere at BMD, which has been suggested here, if it's possible.
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It would look good by the south boundary fence on the dock wall at the Everton Way. Dunno how well it would hold up out in the open there though
 
I'd imagine there would be sponsorship opportunities in any new development that was centered on the women's team and if I were to be cynical about it, that could be exploited commercially and offset costs.

I was initially against the redevelopment idea but it does seem to have potential if it can pay its own way, substantially at least.

I'd like to see a development focused on sport and well-being within the redevelopment of the ground as a smaller football venue.

Perhaps a community sports centre / gym with broader facilities and even accomodation options.
 

Bedfordblue said:
Just need Tom to come and rip it apart now.
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Where have I ripped anything apart?

It's pretty much how I would do it too tbh..... I advocated similar at our last shareholders quarterly meeting when the women's team ground issues were first being mentioned. They didn't seem to be that receptive at the time, but perhaps the new owners think differently.

I think the working heritage stadium model is the way to go. At least one Leitch stand preserved, preferably both, certified at reduced capacity if necessary. Lower Bullens could be half-glazed off for museum, hospitality or exhibition area with views of pitch and internal steelwork etc or this could all be housed on the mainstand side. Enclosure, boxes and changing rooms could be re-used, with rest of stand demolished or gutted out for repurposing. Re-use at least the lower Gwladys St, (with upper stand mothballed unless demand dictates). No reason why the upper Bullens can't be re-used. If the Park End is kept it could give a total capacity of say 18-25k+.

Football tourism is a growing industry and we have the finest collection of classic British football stadium architecture in the country. I was at the ground a few weeks ago for a meeting on a non-matchday....Liverpool had a European match the day after and there were lots of foreign fans walking around the timeline and in the shop, and i know one of LFC fan tours incorporates our ground's timeline too.... an actual working museum and place for the Everton collection to be properly exhibited could greatly increase that interest and footfall. Combining that with new Everton in the community facilities, the needs of the women and youth teams and possibly even the county FA, could make it a financially viable operation. At the same time preserving a presence in our traditional heartlands and that historic face-off across the park, all adding value to the club imo.

I think we can have our cake and eat it. History enshrined at one site and modernity and future at the other..... a two pronged approach, perhaps? With the women getting an infinitely superior facility than WHP too! The proverbial win win situation on every level.
 
Tom Hughes said:
Where have I ripped anything apart?

It's pretty much how I would do it too tbh..... I advocated similar at our last shareholders quarterly meeting when the women's team ground issues were first being mentioned. They didn't seem to be that receptive at the time, but perhaps the new owners think differently.

I think the working heritage stadium model is the way to go. At least one Leitch stand preserved, preferably both, certified at reduced capacity if necessary. Lower Bullens could be half-glazed off for museum, hospitality or exhibition area with views of pitch and internal steelwork etc or this could all be housed on the mainstand side. Enclosure, boxes and changing rooms could be re-used, with rest of stand demolished or gutted out for repurposing. Re-use at least the lower Gwladys St, (with upper stand mothballed unless demand dictates). No reason why the upper Bullens can't be re-used. If the Park End is kept it could give a total capacity of say 18-25k+.

Football tourism is a growing industry and we have the finest collection of classic British football stadium architecture in the country. I was at the ground a few weeks ago for a meeting on a non-matchday....Liverpool had a European match the day after and there were lots of foreign fans walking around the timeline and in the shop, and i know one of LFC fan tours incorporates our ground's timeline too.... an actual working museum and place for the Everton collection to be properly exhibited could greatly increase that interest and footfall. Combining that with new Everton in the community facilities, the needs of the women and youth teams and possibly even the county FA, could make it a financially viable operation. At the same time preserving a presence in our traditional heartlands and that historic face-off across the park, all adding value to the club imo.

I think we can have our cake and eat it. History enshrined at one site and modernity and future at the other..... a two pronged approach, perhaps? With the women getting an infinitely superior facility than WHP too! The proverbial win win situation on every level.
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Bit over sensitive there pal, I meant Tom Cardwell, chair of the planning committee, But if the cap fits etc….

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James Patrick said:
Whatever the prospects of redevelopment we're not gonna retain the most costliest stands to maintain.
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I was going to say.... the plan above proposes to remove the two newest and arguably most comfortable stands, whilst retaining the oldest and uncomfortable.

The Main Stand holds all the hospitality, too, which as women's football grows the club would want to make the most of.

If anything, it'd be the Street End and the Bullens that will go, however I appreciate this would leave the least amount of space for any facilities to be built.
 
PhilM said:
I was going to say.... the plan above proposes to remove the two newest and arguably most comfortable stands, whilst retaining the oldest and uncomfortable.

The Main Stand holds all the hospitality, too, which as women's football grows the club would want to make the most of.

If anything, it'd be the Street End and the Bullens that will go, however I appreciate this would leave the least amount of space for any facilities to be built.
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The Park Ed contains hospitality too and a decent accessible seating area.

I would flatten the main stand and build new changing rooms, reception etc. that could be accommodated within a smaller footprint. The Bullens should be kept at all costs, as Tom says the Lower section (which is the middle part that sits under the upper tier) could be blocked off to limit capacity, thus the concourse wouldn't feel so rammed and would help to reduce the maintenance needs.
 

The binman chronicles said:
The Park Ed contains hospitality too and a decent accessible seating area.

I would flatten the main stand and build new changing rooms, reception etc. that could be accommodated within a smaller footprint. The Bullens should be kept at all costs, as Tom says the Lower section (which is the middle part that sits under the upper tier) could be blocked off to limit capacity, thus the concourse wouldn't feel so rammed and would help to reduce the maintenance needs.
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Perfect for boxes the lower bullens.
I'm sure Sunderland did similar
 
Can anyone remind me... What other clubs have kept their old stadiums as pitches?

I'd be gobsmacked if Goodison Park remains.Those that support the move to BMD should wave it goodbye.
I can understand the feelings of those that didn't want to move.

Transplant the moveable memorabilia, such as statues and gates and parts of Archibald Leitch's handywork, and let's move on.

The land is too valuable to keep. Soon it'll be shops or houses and inhabited by followers of the RS.
 
Bedfordblue said:
Will cost more to make it suitable for sale than it’s worth.
Alternative is to probably give it away ‘as is’, at which point it would likely be derelict for years and an absolute blight on the local area.
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Sorry but that's rubbish.
The land could be sold for development. EFC need do nothing to make it suitable for sale.

Give away an asset? Are you an the board!
 

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