Pre-Season

[Allezfan]

Just got this feeling though if Moyes does leave for Spurs then Slaven Bilic would be the favourite what with being an ex player and also the Jelavic link

Goat, sic him.

 

[bluejock]

Goat, eat him.

Bit harsh

 

[GraemeS1980]

Imagine having Di Canio as manager when Drenthe was pissing about.

There'd be murder.

he wouldnt have put up with in the same way Moyes didnt, however I just think Di Canio or Bilic would be the best in my own opinion to take over if Moyes did go.

 

[Goat]

Goat, sic him.

I give up.

 

[EFCNIK]

Im guessing your just a wind up, are u a blue??

No mate, I'm clearly a kopite.

 

[Ian Wilsons hair gel]

I've just had a horrid thought we could end up with Steve Round and his taped microphone as a care-taker manager if Moyes did go, sends a shiver down my spine!

 

[pfim]

I'd absolutely love McLeish here tbh. I know it didn't go well at Villa but they had so many terrible injuries he didnt really stand a chance. We'd play attacking football and I think he'd really get through to the players.

He hasn't relegated every Birmingham club yet, so he's probably not available.

 

[nigelcoyb]

Best thread ever.

Restored my faith in evertonians, Moyes won't get the Spurs job of course but it's as though he's gone and more fans than I thought not only aren't arsed but are positive about it.

The "Wizard of Oz" comes to mind, as the evil witch gets soaked and disintegrates her soldiers free of tyranny say she was always a tw@t!

or similar.

 

[billycopper]

It's only a step up if the job is to his liking. If he has a supportive and not combative and questioning chairman. If he has complete control over playing matters. If there aren't warring political factions at the club.

The fact is, Redknapp 'delivered'. Only a freak set of circumstances of the 6th placed club winning the CL stopped then getting CL footy for the 2nd time in 3 years. Moyes has long spoken out about the values of stability, of having autonomous control. Spurs are not Everton - and for all the positives reasons why they are not (more money for a start), there are also lots of negative reasons too, in how they are worse off than Everton. Negatives to the point that they might be deal breakers.

As Pienaar found out, the grass isn't always greener. What seems likes a great move and career enhancement on paper doesn't always turn out like that. The only thing stagnant at Everton is the finances, not the manner in which Moyes manages the teams, seeks out new players and turns things around.

It's a good point about Pienaar. If Spurs are in a position where they need to sell to buy- as has been the case in all but Redknapp's first year in charge- are they a better proposition? If the star players underperform because they liked Redknapp, don't like the new manager or want to move to a major club then Spurs will struggle as they did in the latter stages of the season. If Moyes is going to leave Everton I think it will be for a club who are in a considerably better position to challenge for honours.

 

[fandjango]

Get Harry in FFS

 

[BoysInBlue]

So Moyes is going to stay here his entire career then?

He's clearly not ambitious as we all think if that's the case. Especially if the only club he'd apparently be able to have stability and complete control is say us....and United, Arsenal, or Barcelona.

Redknapp had full control of who came and went. Levy probably fell out with him, didn't want to give him a 3 year deal, so binned him thinking he's done all he can. It's not levys just fired him out of the blue, they've had a fall out.

Spurs ain't citeh, Newcastle, or chelski with ruthless chairmen, they let the manager have control so I don't see them being a monster chopping and changing and buying players the manager wants. It's a great job opportunity for anyone.

And Everton are stagnant in all departments as there are no funds to push on, unless the players the managers have bought and scouted are sold the next year. It's never a push forward, its always one step forward, 2 steps back

You're wrong about Spurs. Levy strictly controls the club. He's thought to favour a Director of Football, supporting the coach. The role that Brendan Rodgers has at Liverpool was the type of role that Levy wanted at Spurs. There are numerous political factions at Tottenham, look at the ruthless way they have gotten rid of Redknapp. Ask yourself why he fell out with him, when the man unquestionably delivered.

Moyes is ambitious and will probably not stay at Everton his entire career (not unless a Sheik buys us!), but he doesn't fit the type of manager Levy is supposedly looking for. There's always the Man Utd talk, and when Ferguson does step down, it will be very interesting to see who succeeds him, given the long-spoken rumours.

 

[billycopper]

So Moyes is going to stay here his entire career then?

He's clearly not ambitious as we all think if that's the case. Especially if the only club he'd apparently be able to have stability and complete control is say us....and United, Arsenal, or Barcelona.

Redknapp had full control of who came and went. Levy probably fell out with him, didn't want to give him a 3 year deal, so binned him thinking he's done all he can. It's not levys just fired him out of the blue, they've had a fall out.

Spurs ain't citeh, Newcastle, or chelski with ruthless chairmen, they let the manager have control so I don't see them being a monster chopping and changing and buying players the manager wants. It's a great job opportunity for anyone.

And Everton are stagnant in all departments as there are no funds to push on, unless the players the managers have bought and scouted are sold the next year. It's never a push forward, its always one step forward, 2 steps back

United, City and Chelsea are clear of everyone else in the league. Arsenal, all things considered, can't be touched either. Given that Spurs do have financial constraints I would group them together with Liverpool, Newcastle, Villa and us as trying to break in to the Champions League places. There would be little point in Moyes leaving us to join another side in that chasing pack.

Is Redknapp out of order for wanting to commit the twilight of his managerial career to Spurs or being open to going out at the top with England? Many said that they were the best footballing side in the country last year and it was probably only the distraction of the England job that prevented them finishing in the top three. His sacking is extremely harsh.

I don't think there is an awful lot between Everton and Tottenham on the pitch, provided we're able to keep Pienaar. They could probably raise more by selling Modric, Bale and Van der Vaart than we could be offloading Fellaini, Baines and Jelavic but there wouldn't be much in it. I'd personally rather have Barkley, Rodwell, Duffy and Coleman than Livermore, Rose, Huddlestone and Townsend. Beside their big names Defoe, Pienaar, Bassong and Dos Santos are unsettled. Gomes, Bentley and Jenas are dead wood and Dawson is a perennial injury victim alongside Huddlestone. I wouldn't have much faith in Friedel, Cudicini or Gomes and they have big problems at both ends of the pitch. There is a surprising amount of work to be done at the Lane, whereas Moyes has said that it would only take about £5m for him to get his Everton side how he wants it.

 

[Deloodid]

Yes mate a few times. I am not looking forward to languising in the lower divisions again like we was pre moyes.

No mate, I'm clearly a kopite.

i didnt think kopites had good haircuts.

 

[mawders]

I'd absolutely love McLeish here tbh. I know it didn't go well at Villa but they had so many terrible injuries he didnt really stand a chance. We'd play attacking football and I think he'd really get through to the players.

i can't work out if you are being serious, or are seriously taking the p1ss. I hope the latter

 

[davek]

So Moyes is going to stay here his entire career then?

He's clearly not ambitious as we all think if that's the case. Especially if the only club he'd apparently be able to have stability and complete control is say us....and United, Arsenal, or Barcelona.

Redknapp had full control of who came and went. Levy probably fell out with him, didn't want to give him a 3 year deal, so binned him thinking he's done all he can. It's not levys just fired him out of the blue, they've had a fall out.

Spurs ain't citeh, Newcastle, or chelski with ruthless chairmen, they let the manager have control so I don't see them being a monster chopping and changing and buying players the manager wants. It's a great job opportunity for anyone.

And Everton are stagnant in all departments as there are no funds to push on, unless the players the managers have bought and scouted are sold the next year. It's never a push forward, its always one step forward, 2 steps back

Looking that way isn't it?

He's Everton's Dario Gradi. And he'll win just about as much as him too.