Premature evaluation

[tellmema]

In this vein would love to hear the premature evaluations of Jizz Hornkamp...... Wank or blinding?

 

[Lanolin]

Yes it's pathetic

Onana had a ropey 5 mins and he's now gbamin and now Tarkowski is now Michael Keane

It's tedious listening to same negative faeces pour out of people's mouths

Personally I think the opposite is the bigger problem. Tarkowski is pretty much Michael Keane level. That’s not a criticism of him, it’s just an honest assessment of his ability. The issue is that people go massively overboard about tarkowski and coady being 100 times better than the players they’re replacing and some sort of combination of John terry, Roy Keane and winston Churchill, and then when it becomes clear they aren’t you get an inevitable backlash.

 

[ToffeeTim]

We need to make our players more accountable, not less. We need to be far more ruthless and far less sentimental with players.

If you play for Everton you need to perform or you should be let go. Until we start enforcing standards at the club internally then nothing will get better.

Yesterday should be seen as an unacceptable result not a point gained. There should be a desperation to put it right, not a satisfaction about getting a late point. We need a whole culture change at the club.

 

[MACCA75]

McNeil has had an awful start, I think that’s fair to say.

 

[Zeitgeist]

Personally I think the opposite is the bigger problem. Tarkowski is pretty much Michael Keane level. That’s not a criticism of him, it’s just an honest assessment of his ability. The issue is that people go massively overboard about tarkowski and coady being 100 times better than the players they’re replacing and some sort of combination of John terry, Roy Keane and winston Churchill, and then when it becomes clear they aren’t you get an inevitable backlash.

He is better than Michael Keane mate

 

[Lanolin]

He is better than Michael Keane mate

Maybe he is but he’s not on a different level. He may be marginally better overall but it would be marginal. It’s not exactly a controversial statement either, if you looked at their careers on paper you’d definitely assume Keane was the better player. Quite what it is that has convinced people that a bloke who came from lower leagues and has spent almost his entire PL career battling relegation is some sort of defensive colossus I really don’t know.

 

[MrGrumpy]

I've noticed a trend, arguably intensifying, amongst the good posters of GOT to rapidly evaluate new players.

Recent examples that come to mind are Mykolenko, Onana and McNeil. The example of one Alex Iwobi, written off by many (myself included), is perhaps a lesson to us that players can come good.

So, friends, are we too knee jerk? Should we be more generous in allowing players time to bed in, find form or develop?

Evertonian are massive knee jerkers.
Everton losing - worst team ever - worst manger ever
Everton drawing - man we suck
Everton winning - Best team ever, best players, best manager

 

[Shibbywiggles]

Evertonian are massive knee jerkers.
Everton losing - worst team ever - worst manger ever
Everton drawing - man we suck
Everton winning - Best team ever, best players, best manager

It’s not just Everton it’s football in general, especially premier league team’s fans because of the media exclaiming everything in sensationalist terms and all these ‘banter’ pages on social media.

The other day I met a United fan in their mid thirties. When I asked him who he supported he paused, tutted, and said ‘United, so yeah, feel sorry for me’.

As a 33 year old evertonian who didn’t grow up seeing his teams win trebles and batter everyone all over Europe I wanted to slap the little cry baby.