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Not everyone who disagrees with you is a red.

He's a kopite Groucho @roydo and here's the proof.

Taken from the Liverpool witch hunt thread in response to Calvin's post about Liverpool players stamina

Mock me all you want if it makes you feel better.

I'd love someone to explain how they were able to outrun Leicester and batter them 4 nil after playing in the searing heat of the middle east sweating half their own body weight to playing a team in second place who had not played for a week.

im not mocking you, I’m just laughing at you and your mate. Where did your mate geat his sports science degree? Did he buy it online from trump university or something? The point of PEDs is not to enhance your performance the moment you take them like a couple of lines of coke boost your night out and some Viagra gets you going for 12 hours, but instead it's to help you train harder, longer, which in turn builds the strength/speed/stamina etc you would not otherwise be able to do, hence why sports men and women get tested out of season as well as in season and why they need to make themselves available at all times and not just on match day. They’re not gonna turn up on a match day and take PEDs and instantly improve!!!!! Maybe klopp is injecting coke into the half time oranges, which is why we get so many late goals? My mate who works for Delta and has all the street rats grafting in his cabs says he's seen that pattern.

The key word here is we, as in referring to Liverpool who where the subject of this discussion. No Evertonian even in error would substitute "we"for "they" in this context

The Prosecution rests m'lud.
 
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Yes that is right. I am trying to remember what documentary I saw this in the other day, one of the famous Argentina or Italy teams perhaps.
A friend of mine is a coach involved with the welsh woman’s international team, they were away in Austria and were due to train at the stadium they were due to play in the night before the game. When the team coach arrived at the stadium they realised they had forgotten the balls and none could be sourced in the vicinity, they ran a two hour shadow session which was one of the best sessions my mate reckons he’s ever taken part in lol
 
What book is it Del??

'You are awesome' Full of stories of famous people overcoming challenges to achieve the best and anecdotes about the brain and that no one one is born a genius. It is honestly amazing. I so annoyed by this. Even recommended it to Troy Deeney on the way back from the Watford game at Goodison this season and he ordered it on his phone on the train for his son.
 
'You are awesome' Full of stories of famous people overcoming challenges to achieve the best and anecdotes about the brain and that no one one is born a genius. It is honestly amazing. I so annoyed by this. Even recommended it to Troy Deeney on the way back from the Watford game at Goodison this season and he ordered it on his phone on the train for his son.

Thanks....I did try to find it online when I read your post but there was a few so I wasn't sure which one it was.
 
Yes that is right. I am trying to remember what documentary I saw this in the other day, one of the famous Argentina or Italy teams perhaps.


I seem to recall Brian Clough espousing this philosophy.

His rationale being that when Saturday came, the players would be “hungry for the ball”.
 

Null and void is only the term they used. Cancelling will be very much and option as will curtailing the season, which they told us on Monday they are now discussing, both of which are doing the exact same thing as voiding them.

Sporting merit will be what Holland did, awarding european places and prize money based on wherever they are now. They will not relegate anyone via that method and IMO, nor will they award a title. France was different, as they already had a rule in place for a season ending prematurley.

Null and void = cancelling / curtailing and it's very must still on the table, they told us so.
I think this is what Megatron is on about.


Let them have it with asterix next to their name, plenty of banter available with this one
 
I think this is what Megatron is on about.


Let them have it with asterix next to their name, plenty of banter available with this one

They won't be awarded a title Harv. They'll be given the prize money for first but as soon as they make a decision at 1 end then the top EPL clubs will have a case in court that if they made a decision at 1 end then they can at the other. Therefore they've unfairly lost huge amounts of money that they'd have received from this. If they relegate teams using PPG they wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court and they'd lose that as well and the compensation they'd have to give those 3 clubs could be a billion plus in total for loss of potential earnings.

Unfortunately, they're stringing you along right now, pretending to be trying everything but deep down, they all know it will be cancelled,

That is really the only option open to them and they are very lucky that no one has own anything and no one is mathematically relegated because it makes it very easy and no one can challenge it. It's just one of those things eh Harv.

If it's any consolation you should have good change of ending the 30 year drought next year, if the venture capitalists who own your club don't sell any players to negate the £9 million per week losses they're struggling with right now.
 
They won't be awarded a title Harv. They'll be given the prize money for first but as soon as they make a decision at 1 end then the top EPL clubs will have a case in court that if they made a decision at 1 end then they can at the other. Therefore they've unfairly lost huge amounts of money that they'd have received from this. If they relegate teams using PPG they wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court and they'd lose that as well and the compensation they'd have to give those 3 clubs could be a billion plus in total for loss of potential earnings.

Unfortunately, they're stringing you along right now, pretending to be trying everything but deep down, they all know it will be cancelled,

That is really the only option open to them and they are very lucky that no one has own anything and no one is mathematically relegated because it makes it very easy and no one can challenge it. It's just one of those things eh Harv.

If it's any consolation you should have good change of ending the 30 year drought next year, if the venture capitalists who own your club don't sell any players to negate the £9 million per week losses they're struggling with right now.

What interests me, is outsiders of LFC see to be desperately jumping on any article written, recycling it in the 2nd and 3rd source so it becomes fact that we will definitely do PPG.

When asked about substance, IE where is the PL or FA statement that has stated this, they go a bit quiet. At best you get a kind of broad notion like the FA saying giving a nod to sporting merit. They interpret that as PPG. It could be, but they may well have a wholly different view of merit to PPG. It may well be they feel you merit a trophy, or a promotion when you have mathematically achieved it, as per the rules.

The FA statement is a good example as well, as from what I can see, there has been no actual statement, something has been leaked and they run with it as if its fact.

I dont think we can doubt this practice is going on. The interesting point for me is why. It strikes me that they haven't gained any agreement, as if you have been informed what happens, why behave in the way they are?

I dont think they have ever considered what happens after cancellation. I'll be very honest about that. I dont think theyve grasped a world where it came be finished. So the idea they have mapped out, and finalised a route as to what's happened is just untrue. Anyone saying such a thing is not informed and is talking rubbish.

Does anyone honestly believe, if they knew they'd be gifted the title if the season ends they'd be behaving as they are, having articles written in the Murdoch Press saying that if lives have to be lost, it's a price worth paying for football? That's not ne exaggerating either, or extrapolating the basic argument, that's the title. It is brazen, and its desperate.

What happens if the league is cancelled are then some very hard discussions. 14 teams have to agree. There is no law like in France where it states the league can be done on PPG, as a legal defence. There are no teams that cant be caught (like in Belgium) where relegation didnt happen. That puts us at Holland, or England down to tier 5 currently, and likely further up the chain.

I have different PPG suggestions relegate about 5 different teams. Each of those bottom 6 know, there is a chance they could get sucked into it. We know 2 teams have some sympathy. We know Arsenal and Spurs would probably chance their arm on a void as they may get Europe again.

When very strong legal cases are presented to the league from the sides at bottom, and it starts to dawn on them that they have liabilities of hundreds of millions per club relegated, the other teams may start to get nervous.

I dont know what the outcome will be. But they are the pressures. The counter would seem to be Liverpool, on their own, whining for a trophy they haven't earned. We will see who gets to 14.
 

The GAA have basically scrapped the whole championship as it's just not safe without a vaccine. Not so much for players but for the families they go home to, the people they'll meet in the local shop, workmates etc. It shows up what it is all about for the premier league, pure greed.

It's becoming no longer a sport now, just a business venture.
Has it really ever been anything other in the last 20 years?
 

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