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I try to look at things rationally, to remove emotion and look for actual evidence before I form an opinion. Amongst some on here it seems that if you don't jump on the bandwagon then you get singled out. I have been told that I am Hong kong toffee, Keiran and Baileyjohn just because I am not prepared to follow some of the more popular views on here. Have a look at the goal line technology debate. All I said was that whilst other angles showed the ball was clearly over the line I wasn't sure that the image posted showed it had crossed the line conclusively.

Just have a look at the responses I received. There is a baying mob that are practically frothing at the mouth.

Could someone please tell me what I have posted to deserve such a perverse and hostile reaction ?

Suggest you go back and have a look. You haven't answered my points. And my reasonable questions were not of the 'baying mob' variety...
 
Cos its not for the players, its for the viewers.

Thought it would make more sense that it was for the players to provide atmosphere. Don't they have fans watching via zoom on the big screen? I thought that was the whole point of that, so that the players could hear them.
 
Please produce some evidence for that racial slur ?



Your problem is that you have very little understanding of what you are talking about, so you write pseudo-intellectual essays otherwise known as fiction. ONS statistics are published weeks after the actual statistics are available. As per the Downing Street briefing it has been confirmed that last week for the first time since March there were no excess deaths and that deaths in ALL settings were not higher than the seasonal average.

What does for for the government even mean.

I will bow out now and leave you to continue to launch personal attacks that have no basis in reality.

Theres no racial slur you idiot. I'm criticising you for failing to acknowledge the existence of racism.

You seem obsessed with casting judgements over my posts, obsessionally so. That's your call but it doesnt absolve your behaviour.

I will give you a timeline on what actually happened re the ONS though.

I mentioned the ONS figures had the deaths at over 60,000 (in all settings)

You responded by inaccurately pouring scorn on the figures and stating theyd shown a reduction in deaths. I challenged you on this.

You responded by referring to hospital deaths, (which was not the subject of the debate, nor reflexive of the entire death toll, or even the majority).

You the lacked the integrity to just hold your hands up, and say that you were mistaken, and in a thoroughly cowardly way tried to pretend it was a different debate.

Until now, you still refuse to accept that the ONS have shown a single week were deaths are down. I've now seen that you're doubling down on this by saying this week its shown a reduction. It's not. I'm beyond asking you a simple question as you refuse to answer.

I will say though, the ONS has excess deaths up over 800 this week, and Covid deaths at 1500.

What people like you do, is deliberately spread misinformation. You try to explain black is white. Not to say it's so, but to try to cause enough confusion so that those who are telling the truth wont be trusted. Its disreputable behaviour.

If you feel brave enough to one day acknowledge your behaviour, and apologise for your conduct that will be welcomed. It's funny as essentially everyone can see through it.

I'd normally let it slide, but where people are dying, people like you who make deliberately false statements contribute to more deaths. Its unacceptable.

I dont need to insult you. I've left that to you. You will no doubt come back with a myriad of insulting words to describe me and what I write to detract from you coming up with information that is untrue.

As I'd say to everyone though, dont take my word for it, if you have any doubts, read back on the exchange and you'll see exactly what I described above.
 
Suggest you go back and have a look. You haven't answered my points. And my reasonable questions were not of the 'baying mob' variety...

He never answers questions. He lies about people, calls them horrendous names, and when people challenge him then just lies further to avoid taking responsibility. He understands this as a baying mob, it's more just a group of people who have reached the end of the their tether with his behaviour. Hes driven people to this.
 
I try to look at things rationally, to remove emotion and look for actual evidence before I form an opinion. Amongst some on here it seems that if you don't jump on the bandwagon then you get singled out. I have been told that I am Hong kong toffee, Keiran and Baileyjohn just because I am not prepared to follow some of the more popular views on here. Have a look at the goal line technology debate. All I said was that whilst other angles showed the ball was clearly over the line I wasn't sure that the image posted showed it had crossed the line conclusively.

Just have a look at the responses I received. There is a baying mob that are practically frothing at the mouth.

Could someone please tell me what I have posted to deserve such a perverse and hostile reaction ?

Alright Spock, that explains your, ahem, different approach to interaction on here. Vulcans do things differently.

See, I think a lot of the posters on here are long time friends, which is fine. There's in jokes and so forth. I'm certainly not in that crew. But what I can see is one poster constantly picking needly daft arguments.

But given you're Vulcan, perhaps we should just accept the cultural differences that underpin your approach.
 

I have told you I am from an ethnic minority. Do you think it is in any way appropriate to accuse me of failing to acknowledge the existence of racism. ?
We sort of dont believe a word you say anymore.
Why not upgrade and post a photo of yourself in the Members photo thread ?
I will chip in towards the upgrade if you are skint.
 

I have told you I am from an ethnic minority. Do you think it is in any way appropriate to accuse me of failing to acknowledge the existence of racism. ?

As other posters have said, it seems highly dubious. You are a name in a screen on to me. One that refuses to accept racism exists, and worse still accuses those members of the BAME community if supporting a report into it as being the cause of their own suffering (thus absolving the government).

You've also proven time and again to be an unreliable witness. So essentially I have very little faith in that whatsoever.

What I would say though, is where a name on the internet makes disgraceful, hurtful and inaccurate statements about the existence of racism, then its important people challenge that. Otherwise the poison spreads.
 
wait, what? i presumed it was played over the tannoy? Why not play it over the tannoy?
Sky keep saying you can have two options, one of which is no crowd noise (which is my stream). Given how hard it would be to remove it in real time in post, I'm assuming it's not played at the ground.
 

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