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Proposed changes to the Premier league

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Boils down to something very simple for me that’s sporting integrity.

Why to the turnstiles tick, jerseys sold, atmospheres made. It’s because of sport. The basic premise is your team competing against another on an equal footing to be the best. That’s the hook.

This leverages it in the favour of the top clubs and likely are own. However I’d forgo the advantage to maintain the purity of the game. I know I’m being idealistic and business and finance is an important factor in dictating sporting outcomes in the contemporary game. But this enshrines it for ever more, it’s an anti competitive practice and quite frankly a fairy tale killer.

I’m not surprised this has come from what are essentially Corporate America owned clubs in Mordor and Utd.I susepect Arsenal would be strongly on board to, Spurs are opportunistic and Chelsea and City wouldn’t need much convincing given their ownerships.

But there is more at stake here then individual interests it’s the integrity of the game and control of English football.

My own assessment is this proposel is a negotiating tactic with the PL, we will see water downed concessions to some clubs to keep the status quo, the leak is purposeful and strategic. I hope we all we can to resist this, whether we will or not is a different question.
 
Simple solution...ship the Sh1te and Utd off to the MLS Franchise League and give that league a place in the Champaign’s League even though they technically wouldn’t be European.Ticks their boxes and ours. Bit of an inconvenience for their supporters but most fly to home games anyhow.
 
Proposed voting rights and majorities needed to pass resolutions are blatantly designed to fix the league and revenues in the future. Once voting rights are lost they will never come back. I agree with sharing revenues more equally with lower divisions and don't think there's much wrong with the current approach.

Definitely feels like on the road to a US style franchise model with inequalities and rewards built in. It would have the effect of making the "top teams" permanent in their position and stultify development.

I can't see the rest of the division signing up to the complete plan.
 
Looking at it from a sporting perspective, why do Liverpool and Utd think they should be calling the shots on this. Utd have been on a steady decline and should be and are in our direct eye line, Mordor, it’s only a few short seasons since we were finishing ahead of them under Moyes most seasons. They are at the peak of a cycle, but that is ebbing away with an aging squad and will return to the mean, of getting CL football in a good season.

They fear, City, Chelsea, us and any other regime that isn’t based on their method of not investing and fleecing fans. Covid has exposed them.

We’ve spent more seasons then both in the top flight and both have been relegated more recently then us. They are trying to inhabit a space that they don’t have the history, sustainability of future success or the right to inhabit as clubs.
 
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View attachment 104119Here is the Top 6 plus the further 3 to make the 9 up.
I truly hope our club has nothing to do with this .
Utd are a shambles and RS see this as a chance for total domination of the league.
Leicester have won the Prem as many times as them yet wouldnt get a look in.

Stop this nonsense right now before it kills football as we know it.

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Boils down to something very simple for me that’s sporting integrity.

Why to the turnstiles tick, jerseys sold, atmospheres made. It’s because of sport. The basic premise is your team competing against another on an equal footing to be the best. That’s the hook.

This leverages it in the favour of the top clubs and likely are own. However I’d forgo the advantage to maintain the purity of the game. I know I’m being idealistic and business and finance is an important factor in dictating sporting outcomes in the contemporary game. But this enshrines it for ever more, it’s an anti competitive practice and quite frankly a fairy tale killer.

I’m not surprised this has come from what are essentially Corporate America owned clubs in Mordor and Utd.I susepect Arsenal would be strongly on board to, Spurs are opportunistic and Chelsea and City wouldn’t need much convincing given their ownerships.

But there is more at stake here then individual interests it’s the integrity of the game and control of English football.

My own assessment is this proposel is a negotiating tactic with the PL, we will see water downed concessions to some clubs to keep the status quo, the leak is purposeful and strategic. I hope we all we can to resist this, whether we will or not is a different question.

Your last paragraph is absolutely nailed on. I note tomorrow's papers already starting to fuel the European Super League chat & that's stage 2 of these negotiations.

My concern is, if this is being "kited" now, I'm assuming the 9 are onboard (at least provisionally) or they would have dismissed it out of hand today. I sadly think this has legs and ultimately the proposers will get their was with a few concessions going back in return.

18 team league does make sense though!
 
Looking at it from a sporting perspective, why do Liverpool and Utd think they should be calling the shots on this. Utd have been on a steady decline and should be and are in our direct eye line, Mordor, it’s only a few short seasons since we were finishing ahead of them under Moyes most seasons. They are at the peak of a cycle, but that is ebbing away with an aging squad and will return to the mean, of getting CL football in a good season.

They fear, City, Chelsea, us and any other regime that isn’t based on their method of not investing and fleecing fans. Covid has exposed them.

We’ve spent more seasons then both in the top flight and both have been relegated more recently then us. They are trying to inhabit a space that they don’t have the history, sustainability of future success or the right to inhabit as clubs.

To answer your question from their perspective(NOT MINE) they will argue that they bring the viewers & thus the TV contracts and in-turn TV revenue. Man United are responsible for over the 25% of all games viewed globally, yet they recieved under 7% of the tv revenue.
 

Your last paragraph is absolutely nailed on. I note tomorrow's papers already starting to fuel the European Super League chat & that's stage 2 of these negotiations.

My concern is, if this is being "kited" now, I'm assuming the 9 are onboard (at least provisionally) or they would have dismissed it out of hand today. I sadly think this has legs and ultimately the proposers will get their was with a few concessions going back in return.

18 team league does make sense though!
Why does an 18 team league make sense ?

What's wrong with the current format of 20, it's grand the way it is.
 
Why does an 18 team league make sense ?

What's wrong with the current format of 20, it's grand the way it is.

Just too many games - Something has to give, personally I dont think that should automatically be the league cup, which should be a revenue driver for lower league clubs who go on a run.
 
Just too many games - Something has to give, personally I dont think that should automatically be the league cup, which should be a revenue driver for lower league clubs who go on a run.
It's an extra four games, I'd bin every proposal put forth with this idea, no concessions, that means keeping the league cup as well.

This is a farcical idea, something really rotten about it.
 
It's an extra four games, I'd bin every proposal put forth with this idea, no concessions, that means keeping the league cup as well.

This is a farcical idea, something really rotten about it.

I agree, I dont like it, the PL should be a meritocracy where teams should not be handicapped because of their "klout" or "tv ratings"; but I don't think there is a need to throw the baby out with the bath water, some of the ideas are solid. There is simply too much football. Four games would make a huge difference

Another snippit which would be brilliant drama is giving the 18th team in the PL a lifeline and adding them in with 3 rather than 4 playoff teams from the championship
 

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