2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[Neiler]

So you don't accept that a drop of 19 points would be regression?

Just trying to make sure I understand what you are arguing.

Regression definitely, I think we’re worse then last season, which is my point, so I don’t think the two seasons are as comparable as you seem to, I’m expecting a 40 odd point season, maybe 50 if we’re lucky with injuries. In essence where we differ you see no difference from last season to this in terms of quality, I do, and see a big regression and expect that to play out as I suggest, the sooner we get to 40 points the better.

 

[bullybeef]

Can we have Moyes back please.

 

[stretford blue]

Can we have Moyes back please.

Credit where it's due he is doing a fantastic job with west ham

 

[Number_25]

If he keeps us up, he'd have done a good job.

 

[sageyefc]

It's a bit sad how we're discussing how many points we'll need to stay up in November.

Such is the way with paelladyce, he lowers you to his level

 

[nsno-chris]

If he keeps us up, he'd have done a good job.

No

 

[banno]

1.7million of course

But you're ignoring the key point

Why would 40 points be the target when basically the same squad got 59 last season? Surely that would be enormous regression.

Why should we allow expectations to be lowered so far in only 12 months.

PhilRegan is correct.
The team last season was still not good enough so we need to improve it with better players as all other teams have attempted. 1.7ml isn't an amount you would say would progress the team significantly but I do think Townsend and Gray have improved us and the best we could really hope for short term. If we never got them I dread to think where would be now.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Regression definitely, I think we’re worse then last season, which is my point, so I don’t think the two seasons are as comparable as you seem to, I’m expecting a 40 odd point season, maybe 50 if we’re lucky with injuries. In essence where we differ you see no difference from last season to this in terms of quality, I do, and see a big regression and expect that to play out as I suggest, the sooner we get to 40 points the better.

I agree we are a bit worse but I put that down mainly to us having a far inferior manager. But a drop of about 20 points would be appalling. I can accept a small decline but not the form falling off a cliff.

Fans need to ensure that expectations are not allowed to be reduced significantly because that's a proper losing mentality that will just get worse and worse. Benitez should be judged based on what Ancelotti got out of this squad. 10th is the benchmark.

 

[Thomasc]

lol lol lol

How is saying I have no confidence in the players or manager clutching at straws?
Did you not see the Watford or wolves games?

I don’t think or didn’t say he’s getting sacked, or leaving any time soon, yet you group me with a load of posters saying that.

Very odd.

 

[blu87554]

Rafael Benitez is the 2nd coming, and the one thing Moshiri actualy got right.

 

[Neiler]

I agree we are a bit worse but I put that down mainly to us having a far inferior manager. But a drop of about 20 points would be appalling. I can accept a small decline but not the form falling off a cliff.

Fans need to ensure that expectations are not allowed to be reduced significantly because that's a proper losing mentality that will just get worse and worse. Benitez should be judged based on what Ancelotti got out of this squad. 10th is the benchmark.

We’re significantly worse mate, we had limits last year, but loosing Jamo, Carlo, picking up injuries and not progressing when most of the rest of the league invested and progressed. You right on the change on manager to. Over all there is a depleting regressive atmosphere around the club.

I don’t think fans need to have anything, it’s not some happy clapp, group think, if your unsatisfied and I am with the club from top to bottom I’m going to call it, it’s nof a defeatist attitude, it’s highlighting the broken peices and canvassing for change or improvement, we know we’re not meeting a standard and I’m not going to lie that all is rosey and acceptable. The welfare of the club is paramount 40 points is my expectation. I expect nothing more then to hope to stay up this season, but I’m sure as hell going to point out that’s not good enough. Any other happy clappy stuff is wall papering over the cracks of poor decision making and governance at the club, colluding with that is defeatist in my opinion.

On a separate 59 points last season was a Poor return given the context too so that wouldn’t be a standard either in my opinion mate.

 

[davek]

How is saying I have no confidence in the players or manager clutching at straws?
Did you not see the Watford or wolves games?

I don’t think or didn’t say he’s getting sacked, or leaving any time soon, yet you group me with a load of posters saying that.

Very odd.

Well if you dont say that I apologise.

 

[Blueclouds]

Rafael might have us doing well next season. You can't compare him to moyes at the moment when Rafael only been here a few months. Would be unfair

 

[Efcjake]

If he keeps us up, he'd have done a good job.

Will be what his journo mates lead with in the next few weeks

 

[Eggs]

If he keeps us up, he'd have done a good job.

….really? That’s a very low bar.