2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[Nymzee]

As above

So there's zero risk?

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

So there's zero risk?

In my eyes
I’m not standing by raf btw, just looking at it objectively

 

[big nev lookalike]

If anyone has a serious answer to why Benitez is the right man, I'd love to hear it. All I keep hearing is he won a CL 17 years ago and did well at Newcastle, even though he took them down.

His tactical prowess springs to mind along with his innovative team selections.

 

[Theoneandonly]

Im sure he did, obvious statement of the day lad but he must have also assessed what was going on and thought, nah, not for me this and it was Real!

Rafael will not get any more "offers" after us! Guaranteed.

He is done but as his No.1 Fan Boy I wont expect you to understand that

You're delusional if you think Rafas career is over if he left here.

Fact of the matter is there will always be a club who will take a punt on him. He would walk in to every championship side. There are mid-table foreign clubs who would be interested such as Fiorentina who wanted him in the summer. Relegation threatened clubs would ask him. Newcastle. Etc etc.

 

[Dixieslaces]

2 matches in which individual errors messed us up.

Sure we probably would have lost against Liverpool, but at 2-1 we were getting back in to the match and they were there for the taking. Watford we were 2-1 up until the last 10 mins and we lost our heads.

Both of those games can't be fully blamed on Rafael.

At Brentford we dominated them, we lost to a penalty and had a stonewall penalty rejected for us. If we had more players fit, we would have beaten them.

You could say we potentially lost 7 points in these matches. Which would be pushing us in to European spots, but Rafael can't be fully blamed.

Get Mina back, get DCL back, add a new right back and hopefully more and see where we're at.

Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda


So many ifs and buts

No piggin substance to any of that!

 

[Cool_Blue]

Who's disputing that?

Are the reasons down to the manager? Some. Most? No.

There is no rational point of getting shut of Benitez other than to satisfy the wishes of his detractors who never gave him a chance. The owner knows that and has responded with that in mind. Let's see how long he maintains that stance, but Benitez is defo here for the near future.

What was your take on Nuno being shown the door at Spurs after about 10 games? I think you were a fan of his, no? Levy realised it was a mistake and acted.

 

[Dixieslaces]

You're delusional if you think Rafas career is over if he left here.

Fact of the matter is there will always be a club who will take a punt on him. He would walk in to every championship side. There are mid-table foreign clubs who would be interested such as Fiorentina who wanted him in the summer. Relegation threatened clubs would ask him. Newcastle. Etc etc.

and they can have him! with our blessing lad.

anyone looking at his record over last 6 seasons and his showing at us, thinks twice, 100%

 

[Theoneandonly]

His tactical prowess springs to mind along with his innovative team selections.

The fact of the matter is he's still revered as a master tactician and is well known for building clubs.

He's exactly what we need right now. Sure it's going to be tough, but I think it will be worth it in the long run.

 

[Nymzee]

In my eyes
I’m not standing by raf btw, just looking at it objectively

Shouldn't 2 points from 24 be all the objective you need.

 

[Efcjake]

That's not relevant to this. Koeman had hundreds of millions to spend and two seasons to get it right. Benitez has had no money and 14 games in charge.

It is but you just want to antagonize folk.

 

[ToffeeTim]

2 matches in which individual errors messed us up.

Sure we probably would have lost against Liverpool, but at 2-1 we were getting back in to the match and they were there for the taking. Watford we were 2-1 up until the last 10 mins and we lost our heads.

Both of those games can't be fully blamed on Rafael.

At Brentford we dominated them, we lost to a penalty and had a stonewall penalty rejected for us. If we had more players fit, we would have beaten them.

You could say we potentially lost 7 points in these matches. Which would be pushing us in to European spots, but Rafael can't be fully blamed.

Get Mina back, get DCL back, add a new right back and hopefully more and see where we're at.

This argument about injuries is getting tedious. There are lots of teams who never have a fully fit squad for even 1 game of a season.

Our defending comes back to the manager because exactly the same players conceded far fewer goals last year. Of course he takes some of the blame, it's bonkers to suggest otherwise.

 

[Nymzee]

The fact of the matter is he's still revered as a master tactician and is well known for building clubs.

He's exactly what we need right now. Sure it's going to be tough, but I think it will be worth it in the long run.

When's he built a club? Liverpool?

 

[Efcjake]

The fact of the matter is he's still revered as a master tactician and is well known for building clubs.

He's exactly what we need right now. Sure it's going to be tough, but I think it will be worth it in the long run.

The only one revering him is you.

2 man midfield against one of the best teams in the league.


He's an idiot.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Arsenal H
Crystal Palace A
Chelsea A
Leicester H

Anything less than 4 points and I'd be very surprised if he can keep his job - especially when we get tonked at Chelsea.

 

[ToffeeTim]

In my eyes
I’m not standing by raf btw, just looking at it objectively

Looking objectively or not, this is our worst run of form since 1999. Is it not fair we are concerned and questions are being asked?

He was a divisive choice to start with, and these result s are creating a toxic environment that helps nobody.