2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[Saint Domingo]

He also said we were goin in the right direction.
Do you agree with that ?

Getting rid of Brands, the medical staff, the scouting team, trying to get to the bottom of our problem with injuries, making it clear to players they’re not in charge at the club.

That’s a better direction than anything we’ve been on previously for a while. The results aren’t good enough, everyone knows that, but they’ve been poor for years. Im confident better results will follow. Others aren’t, that’s fine.

 

[Marius57]

It was the other day mate. I can't remember where I read it. It was an article examining the mess the clubs in and mentioned it was 5 years worth of mess to clean out.

Oh, let's make a statement and claim something but not actually provide evidence to back it up. And you wonder why people question you?

 

[Saint Domingo]

Sounds like you've been groomed by davek

Read any of the old Martinez threads and you’d know how ridiculous that comment is.

 

[Theoneandonly]

Getting rid of Brands, the medical staff, the scouting team, trying to get to the bottom of our problem with injuries, making it clear to players they’re not in charge at the club.

That’s a better direction than anything we’ve been on previously for a while. The results aren’t good enough, everyone knows that, but they’ve been poor for years. Im confident better results will follow. Others aren’t, that’s fine.

I think people would rather a manager come in who doesn't care about anything other than cashing cheques.

The fact that Rafael has come in and is trying to cleanse the club, doesn't sit right with people.

 

[Theoneandonly]

Oh, let's make a statement and claim something but not actually provide evidence to back it up. And you wonder why people question you?

I'll try and find it mate.

 

[Toffeepot]

Exactly mate. I don't know why people can't accept it for what it is.

Moshiri has admitted that changing managers so many times hasn't improved us 1 bit. If anything it's stagnated us.

Rafael has been brought in to do a job and clean out the club from top to bottom, get rid of the deadwood, sort out the backroom staff, sort out the academy and prepare us for the new stadium.

Rafael could have easily walked in to Newcastle in September. He chose not to and Moshiri rewarded him for that. Moshiri also knows that if he sacks Rafael, Rafael will go straight to Newcastle, Leeds, Southampton or whatever other job is available. Meanwhile we're scraping the barrel for whatever crap is left over.

true. false. false. false

 

[windymiller]

I think people would rather a manager come in who doesn't care about anything other than cashing cheques.

The fact that Rafael has come in and is trying to cleanse the club, doesn't sit right with people.

Why did your boy Benitez head off to China again?

 

[AndyKing58]

I think people would rather a manager come in who doesn't care about anything other than cashing cheques.

The fact that Rafael has come in and is trying to cleanse the club, doesn't sit right with people.

The fact that Rafael came in at all doesn’t sit right with the majority mate. Awful appointment.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

I think people would rather a manager come in who doesn't care about anything other than cashing cheques.

The fact that Rafael has come in and is trying to cleanse the club, doesn't sit right with people.

You're properly unbelievable.

I mean obviously I can only speak for myself here, but I think the fact that we're on our worst run of results in TWENTY SEVEN YEARS might have a smidge to do with it.

You're so far up Benitez's rear end I'm honestly surprised you haven't suffocated yet.

 

[Saint Domingo]

I think people would rather a manager come in who doesn't care about anything other than cashing cheques.

The fact that Rafael has come in and is trying to cleanse the club, doesn't sit right with people.

They want a silver bullet manager. A manager who will have this group of players playing brilliant football, getting brilliant results, and in the background he’s fixed all the problems at the club that have led to 5 other managers not being able to play brilliant football or get brilliant results.

Some people don’t seem to realise the logical fallacy of that. The problems haven’t gone away, any new manager we take on board will still have them. They’re not going to get good results for exactly the same reason Koeman Silva Allardyce Ancelotti and Benitez couldn’t get them, and they’re going to be left trying to fix them.

So we have an option of paying a load of cash to replace Benitez and let him fix it

Or we just let Benitez get on with fixing it.

That’s the macro view. There’s far too much knee jerking about embarrassing results ‘omg even Palace beat us’. So what, they beat City the other week as well. ‘It’s one win in ten’, is irrelevant if you think that we won’t be down in trouble at the end of the season which I don’t.

The changes needed at the club are big ones and will take time. Bringing up short term ‘travesties’ as a rationale for firing the manager just doesn’t seem helpful to me for fixing Everton in the long term, but this is a forum so each to their own.

 

[Simon Buttle]

It was the other day mate. I can't remember where I read it. It was an article examining the mess the clubs in and mentioned it was 5 years worth of mess to clean out.

But all it does is highlight Moshiris utter lack of any kind of football knowledge and just emphasises why a DoF should be in place and it should be them choosing the manager/head coach. Under Moshiri we have always gone down the previous PL experience route and we have tried every possible variable of it be they young or old and none of it has worked, it's time now to expand out (if we really want to do something) and see that their other managers/coaches out there in other leagues who could do a job, and not just that there are some highly experienced and good names out of work at the moment. If we do end up stuck with Benitez regardless of the results then so be it but if Moshiri is saying that he 'is the only option' then that is utter BS imo.

 

[blue to the bone]

Getting rid of Brands, the medical staff, the scouting team, trying to get to the bottom of our problem with injuries, making it clear to players they’re not in charge at the club.

That’s a better direction than anything we’ve been on previously for a while. The results aren’t good enough, everyone knows that, but they’ve been poor for years. Im confident better results will follow. Others aren’t, that’s fine.

Getting rid of the medical staff is working out well

 

[windymiller]

You're properly unbelievable.

I mean obviously I can only speak for myself here, but I think the fact that we're on our worst run of results in TWENTY SEVEN YEARS might have a smidge to do with it.

You're so far up Benitez's rear end I'm honestly surprised you haven't suffocated yet.

The idea that anyone here is upset because some medical staff and Brands have been booted is bizarre, isn't it? I suppose Chesney has to hang on to something, they can't exactly point to anything on the pitch as a positive!

 

[Theoneandonly]

Why did your boy Benitez head off to China again?

Because he was investigating whether Covid 19 started in a Wuhan lab and ordered a full review of all staff.

 

[windymiller]

Because he was investigating whether Covid 19 started in a Wuhan lab and ordered a full review of all staff.

Ah, a joke about a pandemic that has killed 5 million people. Nice.