2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[banno]

19 points from 51 still doesn’t look good. I don’t think anyone expected to be this poor considering he’s supposed to be a tactical genius

It is poor but when we cannot strengthen sufficiently due to FFP while all other teams do then we are up against it. Then add on numerous injuries to key players when the inherited squad is not fit for purpose to cover said injuries then we have a serious problem. This is why I think the current run of form is understandable. I think the same thing that was said about Carlo applies to Benitez 'Can't polish a turd'

 

[roy vernon]

he's done very well. given the circumstances. He took over a club in crisis. He was promptly given no money to spend, and has had to deal with an injury crisis from hell and a really tough run of fixtures. he's just beaten the form team in the premiership, and got a draw away to the European champions with our second string. He is clearly highly motivated, tactically adept and liked by the players. On top of all that, he is instigating the clear out this club desperately needs.

Again Kev, see my answers to Davek on this. I dont doubt Benitez can instigate a clearout, it's his ability to build up I question. If you are happy with our performances on the field under Benitez that is a mystery only you can explain. In my opinion the results have been poor and the performances even worse.

I was delighted with the performances of the kids at Chelsea, but, let's be honest, if it had not been for the outbreak of illness they wouldn't have got near the pitch and let's not forget, but for a very good performance from Pickford and some woeful finishing from Chelsea, we could easily have lost by 4 or 5 goals.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Did Moyes

Again Kev, see my answers to Davek on this. I dont doubt Benitez can instigate a clearout, it's his ability to build up I question. If you are happy with our performances on the field under Benitez that is a mystery only you can explain. In my opinion the results have been poor and the performances even worse.

I was delighted with the performances of the kids at Chelsea, but, let's be honest, if it had not been for the outbreak of illness they wouldn't have got near the pitch and let's not forget, but for a very good performance from Pickford and some woeful finishing from Chelsea, we could easily have lost by 4 or 5 goals.

this scorched earth policy is more evidence of a man who has run out of ideas

 

[Gabagool]

I don’t care about the RS mate.

And yeah, you can win any argument with facts ?

Reminded me of this

 

[blueblue]

Again Kev, see my answers to Davek on this. I dont doubt Benitez can instigate a clearout, it's his ability to build up I question. If you are happy with our performances on the field under Benitez that is a mystery only you can explain. In my opinion the results have been poor and the performances even worse.

I was delighted with the performances of the kids at Chelsea, but, let's be honest, if it had not been for the outbreak of illness they wouldn't have got near the pitch and let's not forget, but for a very good performance from Pickford and some woeful finishing from Chelsea, we could easily have lost by 4 or 5 goals.

We have a threadbare squad at best... which is not the fault of RB.
We have an enormous list of injuries which is not the fault of RB.
The young players would not have played against Chelsea if we didn't have injuries but then Mina, Allan,Gray, Townsend,Richarlison and DCL wouls have played and probably Coleman as well and if those players do get back from injury they will come into the team instead of the youngsters and I fail to see what is wrong with that.

We know the clearout of players needs to continue and again Benitez is not responsible for these players.

The last issue relates to the players he will sign and we know better than anybody that is a lottery. Only time will tell us if he buys well or badly. But, we certainly need players added to the squad.
However, to be fair to Benitez I think it would be hard to argue with his business so far.

 

[windymiller]

The biggest issues are the quality in the squad and the level of injuries ew are carrying. That makes up the overwhelming amount of our problems.

So you say. The injuries are obviously an issue but this exact same squad performed significantly better in terms of points, goals scored, goals conceded etc.. last season, so the quality argument is not logical.

 

[windymiller]

yes, but whatever he did you would be full of criticism. If we were in the top four you'd be complaining daily about his haircut, so surely these opinions can be disregarded almost as soon as they are issued?

You disregard any opinion that doesn't fit your narrative. Why are you talking about haircuts?

 

[windymiller]

“ If Carlsberg could do football clubs they would be the best football clubs in the world “

Benitez is going nowhere...

Which club did Carlsberg sponsor in the PL, remind me?

 

[windymiller]

So another obvious point is Klopp lost six home games on the bounce last season which was the worst record for 70 years...

Aren’t facts great the way we can all get them to fit our arguments perfectly....

Interesting you choose Klopp as an example, have you been keeping a close eye on his career for some reason?

 

[roy vernon]

We have a threadbare squad at best... which is not the fault of RB.
We have an enormous list of injuries which is not the fault of RB.
The young players would not have played against Chelsea if we didn't have injuries but then Mina, Allan,Gray, Townsend,Richarlison and DCL wouls have played and probably Coleman as well and if those players do get back from injury they will come into the team instead of the youngsters and I fail to see what is wrong with that.

We know the clearout of players needs to continue and again Benitez is not responsible for these players.

The last issue relates to the players he will sign and we know better than anybody that is a lottery. Only time will tell us if he buys well or badly. But, we certainly need players added to the squad.
However, to be fair to Benitez I think it would be hard to argue with his business so far.

In actual fact, I was not referring to who he may or may not sign, I was referring to the root and branch dismantling of the clubs infrastructure, which @davek and others are convinced he is performing.

He is maneuvering himself into a position where he is the one in charge of absolutely everything at the club. When he moves on, or is moved on he will leave us in a complete mess.

With regards to the youngsters, its the fact that he continues to play Delph, Coleman, Tondon and Townsend etc. regardless of what form they are in rather than giving the youngsters a chance, even Iwobi will be shoehorned into the side whenever possible

Time will tell, but, I feel that if Benitez' purge is allowed to co tinue unchecked this club will be in serious trouble in the next year or so.

 

[Bluestar]

So you say. The injuries are obviously an issue but this exact same squad performed significantly better in terms of points, goals scored, goals conceded etc.. last season, so the quality argument is not logical.

Err it isn’t.

DCL has been missing for most of the season. He is our main goal threat.

Godfrey had covid which massively affected his performances.

James has gone.

Players brought in as replacements are now missing.

The injury crisis is on a level beyond anything Ancelotti faced, and that was bad then.

 

[banno]

So you say. The injuries are obviously an issue but this exact same squad performed significantly better in terms of points, goals scored, goals conceded etc.. last season, so the quality argument is not logical.

It is when all the other teams have spent and improved when had FFP to deal with. Losing DCL with no adequate back up for 3 months hasn't helped the case. So yes our quality is a lot more poorer when teams around us have likely added more quality.

 

[GS Blue - LIVERPOOL FAN]

In actual fact, I was not referring to who he may or may not sign, I was referring to the root and branch dismantling of the clubs infrastructure, which @davek and others are convinced he is performing.

He is maneuvering himself into a position where he is the one in charge of absolutely everything at the club. When he moves on, or is moved on he will leave us in a complete mess.

With regards to the youngsters, its the fact that he continues to play Delph, Coleman, Tondon and Townsend etc. regardless of what form they are in rather than giving the youngsters a chance, even Iwobi will be shoehorned into the side whenever possible

Time will tell, but, I feel that if Benitez' purge is allowed to co tinue unchecked this club will be in serious trouble in the next year or so.

What infrastructure is he dismantling and why exactly will we be in a mess when he leaves?

We have moaned about our appaling transfers and return for the investment for a long time and with FFP restrictions, we know we need to manage things a different way.

Benitez says we need to manage transfers differently as soon as he came in. Are you not thankful brands has now gone? Or would you rather we carried on as before simply because it's Benitez that has dared suggest things need to change?

 

[Kev The Rat]

Only hanging around now because Moshiri would never be able to live down the fact that the history books would inevitably record him as having imposed an RS manager who failed and nearly destroyed the club.

What could be worse as a legacy?

Moshiri is effectively the ultimate bag-holder at this point and clinging to the increasingly remote hope that things will turn round.

 

[GS Blue - LIVERPOOL FAN]

Hahaha get over the RS issues mate, you look small time.

He didn't do too badly at the RS if I remember. But yeah, let's hate him and replace him with big dunc because we cant stand that he manged the reds at one point.

Why has benitez nearly destroyed the club? Why is he the problem when we've been [Poor language removed] for 30 years and he's only been here a matter of months