2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[Kev The Rat]

There's plenty of replacements, why would someone not sign up with us for a massive contract and then walk away a multi-millionaire not long afterwards after we sack them. It's a win win for most managers and a pension pot booster of massive proportions. There are, of course, some managers with principles who would not take up that chance but I just cannot think who they are.

Weve just blown nearly 40m on a couple of gambles.

The idea we don’t have money to sack him is for the birds

Just bring in Kovac on Benitez’s money and back him ffs

 

[Colonel Getafe]

My worry is we may not actually drop into the bottom 3 until the last 10 games - what then if we are saying we won’t sack him until bottom 3 ?

I think it's a black/white situation for Moshiri at this point: so long as we're outside the bottom 3, he's safe. If we're not with 10 games to go then who knows what he'll do. I would guess he'd sack him them and hope Big Dunc can inspire the lads to pick up a few wins. Moshiri wont risk his £500m investment going into the Championship, but by the same token, I doubt 10th or 17th or anywhere in between really makes that much difference to him right now.

 

[Kev The Rat]

I think it's a black/white situation for Moshiri at this point: so long as we're outside the bottom 3, he's safe. If we're not with 10 games to go then who knows what he'll do. I would guess he'd sack him them and hope Big Dunc can inspire the lads to pick up a few wins. Moshiri wont risk his £500m investment going into the Championship, but by the same token, I doubt 10th or 17th or anywhere in between really makes that much difference to him right now.

I guess I’m thinking 10 games left will be too late to turn things around which is what worries me.

Bin him at this point and I’d be confident of getting the required points.

 

[Thetigerblue]

Very clear - removing a manager who will relegate us if permitted to do so

So we remove RB. Then what happens? Come on Brains. Please tell us your master plan. The stage is yours to explain the path to unparalleled success.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I think it's a black/white situation for Moshiri at this point: so long as we're outside the bottom 3, he's safe. If we're not with 10 games to go then who knows what he'll do. I would guess he'd sack him them and hope Big Dunc can inspire the lads to pick up a few wins. Moshiri wont risk his £500m investment going into the Championship, but by the same token, I doubt 10th or 17th or anywhere in between really makes that much difference to him right now.

Was chatting to my lad about this, no matter how many more defeats or how more gash the footy becomes (doubt it could get anymore gash than we're seeing now like) as long as Benitez keeps us above the relegation places then his job under Moshiri is as safe as houses.

 

[Kev The Rat]

So we remove RB. Then what happens? Come on Brains. Please tell us your master plan. The stage is yours to explain the path to unparalleled success.

Bring in a respected manager like Kovac and move on

 

[Bluestar]

Yeah I agree with most of that, although the cost of sacking Benitez is a hell of a lot less than dropping out of the richest league in the world if results continue. Sadly, he probably is here for the forseeable future as long as we aren't in the bottom 3.

I was more making the point that some posters seem to imply that because "no one is available" we shouldn't even bother looking or trying to do better. The Prem is the most desired place to work for a lot of managers, and there can only be 20 here at a time. I'd bet there's a hell of a lot more managers who would take this job if it came up than some posters would have us believe.

It is desirable and there would no doubt be of interest to some.

I’m not sure if we could attract the quality we would want in Jan Feb with the money we have available.

However, it is the clubs duty to be continuously looking and considering these sort of issues.

 

[Colonel Getafe]

I guess I’m thinking 10 games left will be too late to turn things around which is what worries me.

Bin him at this point and I’d be confident of getting the required points.

At this point in time, I can realistically see it going either way. 1 win in 12 is relegation form however you dress it up, however if we manage to stumble our way to 38 points from 38 games I think that's probably comfortable enough to avoid relegation and we do it all over again next season...

 

[royalblue66]

Be nice to start a game on the front foot. Does Duncan Ferguson have any input at all ?.

 

[Bluestar]

You don't need to pay for managers not currently employed, like Kovac. Would cost literally nothing and he is a far far better manager than Benitez.

That’s fine, if he is available and if he wants to come.

 

[Thetigerblue]

Watford chop change ever 3 months and got Raniari.

I'd take him over Benitez.

We pay managers handsomely. We could get a lot of better ones.

Watford chop change ever 3 months and got Raniari.

I'd take him over Benitez.

We pay managers handsomely. We could get a lot of better ones.

The Watford who are in 17th place? That Watford? With Ranieri.

But thank you for further illustrating my point with another example. You will lose and badly if you continue this idiocy of changing managers.

 

[toffeeblue9]

I tell you what I don't get...

We aren't a great team, I accept that and I accept that Benitez isn't at fault for that as far as most of the personnel issues go

But - what usually happen for teams who aren't great is that managers will set them up to be hard to beat in the first instance. Ancelotti cottoned on to this last season and made us horrible to watch, but difficult to break down. Allardyce knew this and gave us all 6 months of eye torture. It happens.

Benitez has form for getting teams compact and hard to beat. What I don't get, especially given how bad we are, is that we've barely seen that at all here. Away at Chelsea and away at Man Utd are the only times I can remember thinking we looked compact and hard to break down. You would think he would get that bit right first and then try to build on it? Yet in games against the likes of Brighton and Hull, we've had chasms of space to exploit for the opposition.

It's almost like he's overestimating how good we are, which seems mental.

I genuinely don't care whether we play 442, 4231, 433, 343, 352 or whatever, I just want us to look cohesive and I've not seen that since United away.

The set pieces are another issue entirely and also need to be fixed (although, despite having conceded from them in our last two games, I'd accept that there's been a gradual improvement on this over the last few months).

 

[Runub]

So we remove RB. Then what happens? Come on Brains. Please tell us your master plan. The stage is yours to explain the path to unparalleled success.

I agree. The problems are greater than Benitez and have been there brewing for years but for me at this moment in time the biggest problem is Benitez. The squad is not the best but comfortably upper mid table in ability. This clown ? is making us look like a Championship struggler which we may well be next season unless we jettison Benitez, and the sooner the better

 

[4737carlin]

Bring in a respected manager like Kovac and move on

Why didnt we do that in the summer?

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

So..... has Benitez wiom hearts and minds after yesterday? ?