2021/22 Rafael Benitez

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My point is every manager rotates on some level. It's the nature of the competition.

I don't honestly care what other clubs do. We need a trophy and everyone at the club should be striving towards that rather than prioritising a league game at home to bottom of the league on a 15 game losing streak.

Any Everton manager who rotates and loses to lower league opposition should be criticised for being out of touch with the support. Benitez got it wrong and the defence of him from various quarters is laughable, especially since lots of those same people defending him refused to defend previous managers.
 
No. It should be possible to beat a 2nd tier side with a rotated 11.

Any team with Holgate Godfrey CB pairing, Gomes Davies CM pairing, Kenny at right back and Begovic in goal is going to struggle away at mid table championship opposition.

At what point are we going to stop giving opportunities to these players to inevitably let us down again. The manager picks the side and he got it wrong. These players were not good enough to be expected to win this sort of game. It was complacent and disrespectful to the opponent, the fans who travelled and the competition.
 

He didn't put out a stronger team v Salford.
All mangers rotate in the early rounds of this competition. In every single club .

Hang on, let's go back to your question.

Who was the last manager we had who played a full strength side against lower league opposition in the league Cup?

Last season.

Carlo Ancelotti, in the same round of the competition - against much weaker opposition;

LC 3 - Fleetwood Town. http://evertonresults.com/match23092020.html

Rotating teams is part of the game. Koeman, Silva etc all did it but not to the level Benitez did.

So let's get it right - Benitez putting that starting 11 out last night was Benitez showing contempt for the competition.

He's rightly taking flak for putting this team out;

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To QPR, away. I said before the result that 11 doesn't get a win.

We were missing big players already in Pickford, Coleman, Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin.

To then decide to also rest Allan, Doucoure and Gray was piss poor from Benitez.

He didn't bother his arse to put Calvert-Lewin or Richarlison on the bench against Huddersfield either and got lucky when we went down to 10 men without a striker.

The bloke just doesn't fancy the league cup.

No manager at this club should be allowed to piss away any opportunity to win a domestic trophy and that should be made very clear from any Director of Football.

We're approaching 30 years without winning a trophy.
 
Hang on, let's go back to your question.



Last season.

Carlo Ancelotti, in the same round of the competition - against much weaker opposition;

LC 3 - Fleetwood Town. http://evertonresults.com/match23092020.html

Rotating teams is part of the game. Koeman, Silva etc all did it but not to the level Benitez did.

So let's get it right - Benitez putting that starting 11 out last night was Benitez showing contempt for the competition.

He's rightly taking flak for putting this team out;

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To QPR, away. I said before the result that 11 doesn't get a win.

We were missing big players already in Pickford, Coleman, Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin.

To then decide to also rest Allan, Doucoure and Gray was piss poor from Benitez.

He didn't bother his arse to put Calvert-Lewin or Richarlison on the bench against Huddersfield either and got lucky when we went down to 10 men without a striker.

The bloke just doesn't fancy the league cup.

No manager at this club should be allowed to piss away any opportunity to win a domestic trophy and that should be made very clear from any Director of Football.

We're approaching 30 years without winning a trophy.
Doucoure and Coleman didn't play, so not full strength
 
Hang on, let's go back to your question.



Last season.

Carlo Ancelotti, in the same round of the competition - against much weaker opposition;

LC 3 - Fleetwood Town. http://evertonresults.com/match23092020.html

Rotating teams is part of the game. Koeman, Silva etc all did it but not to the level Benitez did.

So let's get it right - Benitez putting that starting 11 out last night was Benitez showing contempt for the competition.

He's rightly taking flak for putting this team out;

View attachment 139758

To QPR, away. I said before the result that 11 doesn't get a win.

We were missing big players already in Pickford, Coleman, Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin.

To then decide to also rest Allan, Doucoure and Gray was piss poor from Benitez.

He didn't bother his arse to put Calvert-Lewin or Richarlison on the bench against Huddersfield either and got lucky when we went down to 10 men without a striker.

The bloke just doesn't fancy the league cup.

No manager at this club should be allowed to piss away any opportunity to win a domestic trophy and that should be made very clear from any Director of Football.

We're approaching 30 years without winning a trophy.
And again every manager rotates on some level. That's proven
And we also don't know what players were ready to start sports science is now so advanced it determines a lot how much football players play . Unless it's a club directive then it will continue to happen .
 
Any team with Holgate Godfrey CB pairing, Gomes Davies CM pairing, Kenny at right back and Begovic in goal is going to struggle away at mid table championship opposition.

At what point are we going to stop giving opportunities to these players to inevitably let us down again. The manager picks the side and he got it wrong. These players were not good enough to be expected to win this sort of game. It was complacent and disrespectful to the opponent, the fans who travelled and the competition.
There's no option but to give them opportunities. Gomes and Davies are the only backup to Allan and Doucoure. Can you play Doucoure and Allan for every game of a 40-game season?
 

There's no option but to give them opportunities. Gomes and Davies are the only backup to Allan and Doucoure. Can you play Doucoure and Allan for every game of a 40-game season?

They get opportunities when injuries inevitably occur. You don't give them a chance for the sake of it.

The fact they performed so badly is on them though. They shouldn't get another chance.

Keep picking the same players and expecting different results is not going to work.
 
Most of our injuries seem to happen in training, so what is the point of resting players for competitive games?

A lot of players with the top clubs routinely play 50 plus games a year. We aren’t asking that of anyone.
 
I feel he is most unfortunate (and thus far) has made the best of a pretty dire situation by bringing in Gray and Townsend. I do think he has to find a solution this weekend and at some point I can’t make excuses.

I can look the other way if he drops United. I can’t look the other way if we drop Norwich. Time for the manager to earn his paycheck. Injuries or not
 
Most of our injuries seem to happen in training, so what is the point of resting players for competitive games?

A lot of players with the top clubs routinely play 50 plus games a year. We aren’t asking that of anyone.

What's our plan if we ever have europe. Play the reserves every game?

Why are our players incapable of playing twice a week. They are paid more than enough. They should be able to play 3 times a week.
 
They get opportunities when injuries inevitably occur. You don't give them a chance for the sake of it.

The fact they performed so badly is on them though. They shouldn't get another chance.

Keep picking the same players and expecting different results is not going to work.

And who else do we have mate? The reason we are where we are is we have done nothing but sack manager after manager and spend big money on dross after dross.

The club needs a period of stability now - knock off the sacking the manager talk, we get through this season aiming for europe if we dont get there we go into next summer and hope we can spend actual money and that the money is invested wisely for a change.
 

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