Relegation 2022/23

[Gilbert..]

Who would you rather be playing at home on the last day to possibly avoid relegation? Bournemouth? Tottenham? West Ham?

good question. I said at the time we played spurs they were there for the taking. It was around the time their players really had thrown it in.
West ham i reckon by the time they go to leicester will be about 75% already getting ready for Fiorentina.
Id probably say Bournemouth. But its not so much Bournemouth. Its who is going to score for Everton.

 

[Blue peter]

The real disappointment was not converting the surprise Brighton performance and result into momentum the way Forest has, I think we were slightly unlucky to then have Man City in the very next game who were on a run of 10 winning games. Not winning yesterday, picking up the injuries and then the Forest result means we now leave our fate in others hands.

We just have to hope that today is better results wise for us but it’s not completely fatal if today is not. Just have to hope Spurs react to their fans leaving yesterday for the end of season lap of honour, and put a huge shift in next week. It’s the hope that kills.

 

[BlueShark]

I think our luck has run out. The gods are playing with us now with that last-minute goal yesterday, giving us more hope...

I was at the Olympiastadion here in Berlin yesterday to watch the relegation six-pointer between Hertha BSC and VfL Bochum. Hertha had to win to have a chance of catching Bochum on goal difference on the last day. Anything else and they were down. A brilliant, tense game where both sides hits the wooodwork in the last five minites saw them lead 1-0 deep into injury time. 71,000 people were in party mode. Then, with the last corner of the game, Bochum equalised with a free header. Silence. An explosion of joy in the Bochum kurve. Hertha relegated.

In the end, their luck ran out. Like us last season, they stayed up by the skin of their teeth. The invoice arrived yesterday. Ours come in installments: today, tomorrow, and next Sunday. You sense it's in the post.

And we can't say we didn't deserve it.

Games like the one you just described are great to watch when you're not one of the supporters of either of the teams involved! I remember the Wimbledon game all those years back, it was the only time I've felt physically ill at a match.

I completely agree that if we do go down it's fully deserved. I'll still support our club regardless, but relegation must be a catalyst to cut out the rot from the top to bottom of Everton.

I'd hope that if we survive we still have the purge but the warning signs were here at the end of last season and nothing happened as a result of it, if anything we managed to get worse.

 

[st.domingo]

 

[Ralphie Boy]

You forgot about the points deduction/transfer ban we will be operating under for next season, if we survive

I think if we stay up, and that’s a massive if, we buy knowing that like Chelski and Barcelona in previous seasons got a transfer ban and we probably will but not until it’s sorted in September giving us the chance to bring in the players needed prior to the ban and bringing youth through but more importantly no points deducted but the threat for future infringements.

this would then have to satisfy FFP and the other meaning Prem/Championship merchant bankers and leaving the punishment of City potentially the same.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

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Honestly think those are very generous odds on us going down. Don’t think we’re any longer than evens.

 

[Eagle Eye]

Most of us were thinking 4 points from these last 2 games were the likeliest outcome. We have one of the 4.

Sorry for long post all, but needed to get this written down to 'help' process the situation.

It feels more nervy now because:

- Forest are now safe and have beaten Arsenal meaning anyone below could pull out a result. Forest have been in great form though, Leicester and Leeds aren't though...

- West Ham are safe after beating Man Utd the other week which we didn't anticipate, are in a European final and are integral to us surviving. The worry is players may not want to risk injury, but equally may all be playing for a place....

- We have played first so the other teams know what they have to do and if all goes wrong we could be going into the last game second bottom. That would mean that both Leeds and Leicester have won. The chances of them both winning both last games are low (not impossible though), so winning against Bournemouth could be enough...

- Newcastle are deffo in Champions League and have nothing more to play for, but we need them to win against Leicester. But they will surely want to finish the season with a win at home after the season they have had?

Lastly (and most worrying probably) DCL is likely out and we have no fit full backs against a counter attacking team (Bournemouth). We are also better on the counter, but will have to go for it at home.

However, WE are there, WE are the 12th man and WE (well a fair few of us) have done this twice before in 94 and 98 where we went into the last game in the bottom 3 and our fate out of are hands. WE know what it takes, the players will too and whether Tuesday morning our fate is in or out of our hands, WE will do our bit next weekend and that is all WE can ever do...

WE GOT this.

 

[Shibbywiggles]

The real disappointment was not converting the surprise Brighton performance and result into momentum the way Forest has, I think we were slightly unlucky to then have Man City in the very next game who were on a run of 10 winning games. Not winning yesterday, picking up the injuries and then the Forest result means we now leave our fate in others hands.

We just have to hope that today is better results wise for us but it’s not completely fatal if today is not. Just have to hope Spurs react to their fans leaving yesterday for the end of season lap of honour, and put a huge shift in next week. It’s the hope that kills.

It’s the injuries mate. Dyche has us playing well when he have most of our good players available and it’s been that way since his first game but with no full backs and no striker it was hard work to watch yesterday. All our worst performances under Dyche have been when we’ve had the most injuries/Doucoure suspended.

I’ll be delighted if West Ham get a result today and it’s still in our hands next Sunday but I’m not confident we can beat Bournemouth with another mismatched line up.

 

[Drico]

Games like the one you just described are great to watch when you're not one of the supporters of either of the teams involved! I remember the Wimbledon game all those years back, it was the only time I've felt physically ill at a match.

I completely agree that if we do go down it's fully deserved. I'll still support our club regardless, but relegation must be a catalyst to cut out the rot from the top to bottom of Everton.

I'd hope that if we survive we still have the purge but the warning signs were here at the end of last season and nothing happened as a result of it, if anything we managed to get worse.

Yup, and you know as well as I do that the pitch will be invaded with joyous naive people in no mood to conduct any necessary inquest into why we are where we are. The latest chapter in Kenwright's Good Times.

I've reconciled myself to our demise. It'll be horrible, but it will definitely presage some form of change (though much of that will, inevitably, be very negative).

 

[Ralphie Boy]

The so called purge can only happen for one of three reasons:

someone wants our rubbish players - not very likely.
They leave for pastures new voluntarily and take the pay cut -hmm.
They are at the end of their contracts - lots this summer!

 

[Drico]

Most of us were thinking 4 points from these last 2 games were the likeliest outcome. We have one of the 4.

Sorry for long post all, but needed to get this written down to 'help' process the situation.

It feels more nervy now because:

- Forest are now safe and have beaten Arsenal meaning anyone below could pull out a result. Forest have been in great form though, Leicester and Leeds aren't though...

- West Ham are safe after beating Man Utd the other week which we didn't anticipate, are in a European final and are integral to us surviving. The worry is players may not want to risk injury, but equally may all be playing for a place....

- We have played first so the other teams know what they have to do and if all goes wrong we could be going into the last game second bottom. That would mean that both Leeds and Leicester have won. The chances of them both winning both last games are low (not impossible though), so winning against Bournemouth could be enough...

- Newcastle are deffo in Champions League and have nothing more to play for, but we need them to win against Leicester. But they will surely want to finish the season with a win at home after the season they have had?

Lastly (and most worrying probably) DCL is likely out and we have no fit full backs against a counter attacking team (Bournemouth). We are also better on the counter, but will have to go for it at home.

However, WE are there, WE are the 12th man and WE (well a fair few of us) have done this twice before in 94 and 98 where we went into the last game in the bottom 3 and our fate out of are hands. WE know what it takes, the players will too and whether Tuesday morning our fate is in or out of our hands, WE will do our bit next weekend and that is all WE can ever do...

WE GOT this.

Not without DCL we don't.

 

[Ralphie Boy]

We will be relegated and like the phoenix we will rise from the ashes of Goodson and Bills leadership into a new stadium under new ownership that will have bought a championship club on the cheap and be able to run us like a club and not their train set.

Or more than likely will be relegated never to be seen again in the premiership!

 

[GoldenToffee]

Can't wait to see the club have £100k a week Gomes and Alli on the bench next season against the likes of Preston and Bristol City.

 

[st.domingo]

Honestly think those are very generous odds on us going down. Don’t think we’re any longer than evens.

Odds about right according to the supercomputer

 

[Ralphie Boy]

Dyche did take some positives from the Wolves game, sounding more like all of our last FAILED seven managers!