Stuartisitc1878
Player Valuation: £25m
likewise, i really liked Frank but you could see it wasn't working.
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For me, this season has proved that you either need to sack your manager really early ahead of your rivals, or you should stick with them regardless. We did neither, and I think it was the worst possible outcome. A manager search during january, a shambolic transfer window, and not enough time for anyone to come in and turn it around. The managerial change we made was a total waste of time, we are no better or no worse off.
Wolves are the example of going early and getting a real improvement. Ourselves and Leeds are the examples of failing to act at the right time, and then choosing to act far later at the wrong time. The argument for more time isn't necessarily a good argument anymore. Either sack early, or stick for the long term. Don't go for the half measure like we did.
Wolves are the example of going early and getting a real improvement. Ourselves and Leeds are the examples of failing to act at the right time, and then choosing to act far later at the wrong time. The argument for more time isn't necessarily a good argument anymore. Either sack early, or stick for the long term. Don't go for the half measure like we did.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
See this is a big positive, as long as we carry on doing slightly better then 3 of them we will be ok
One game at a time. Its not going to be much fun, but we're not dead yet.
37 points would still be my target to stay up. 4 wins 3 draws needed. Will need 1 win away somewhere.
Tony’s Carp
Player Valuation: £50m
The last couple of years there’s been no real pattern to our results so I’ve more or less given up thinking of our games in terms of easy v hard or must win v expected defeat. Every game is an opportunity, it wouldn’t surprise me much if we lost at home to Brentford then picked up points in the three “harder” games that follow.
Hopefully beat Brentford AND pick up points in the three 'harder' games
I think in Frank's defence (and bear with me here) I think it is harsh to sack a manager when you don't give him the appropriate tools to work with in the first place.
We'd have probably been fine with Lampard had we brought in a competent striker in the summer. He was never an "optimal" choice, but I think that's par for the course when when you hire an inexperienced coach. He was learning on the job in the same way a player 18-23 is.
Given the circumstances, Dyche was a necessity. But we caused that necessity ourselves.
How can you say this with any certainty? I think yesterday would have been a loss under Lampard.
I believe changing the manager is pointless when you do not address the massive problems with the squad in the January window.
I don't think it matters who the manager is. I'm not totally convinced on Dyche, but I'm not sure any manager can provide the solutions we need right now. I just don't want to see managerial changes while this board and owner remain in charge. It makes it look like managers are the problem when they most certainly are not.
Well we are better off? 7pts from 6, which included games against Arsenal & Liverpool. Our record with lampard was pathetic and much worse than that
Tony’s Carp
Player Valuation: £50m
It’s tough because with hindsight we should’ve binned Lampard after Bournemouth but truth be told I’d have disagreed with that decision at the time. That said, the hierarchy at the club should know more about football than I do so maybe they should have sensed which way the wind was blowing and got rid of him before I would have.
The frustration is that the clear (and statistically backed) signs are that Dyche is improving things, and if he’d had the World Cup break (and a month to bring in a forward he needed) we’re probably 6 points plus better off than we are now.l and feeling good about life.
Although the unknown factor in any hypothetical discussion is whether if we’d sacked Frank after Bournemouth we’d have gone with Dyche or whether with more time in the season we’d have gone with some Moshiri flight of fantasy who might not have done any better at all?
Drico
Player Valuation: £50m
We can't really say that, though, because we have played a match more than some of those sides - and the "improvement" or advantage over them is less than three points, i.e., within the margin of error.
We can only say we have outperformed Leeds, who have played the same number of games - and underperformed Wolves.
If we were going to do it, then after Bournemouth or especially brighton at home, were the times to do it. There was absolutely no way back after that thrashing by Brighton, and it would have caused far less disruption to the transfer window. Not that I think sacking the manager gives them a valid excuse for no business being done either.
Personally, think we left it so late that changing the manager was totally pointless. We may as well have stuck with lampard we left it so long. At least I think we would have got a signing that way.
Drico
Player Valuation: £50m
This I agree with. And it tells you why supporting Everton is hair-raising. Not that I have much left at this stage.
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